Pissed with the door panels....... - Toyota Yaris Forums

hasher22 · 10-15-2006, 06:32 AM

Well then dynamattin to get rid of the rattles does work, but spending more money on dyanmattin the plastic door panel skin is another job.

My rear speaker plastic panels IS NOW makin the rattling noises. I know this becuz when i took off the plastic panel and played some bassy songs, obviously theres no rattles....when i attached it back and played the same songs, the rattling noise would come back again. So i know its the plastic panels.

Now i dynamatted around the speaker hole, that didnt seem to eliminate it. So i guess i have to buy more dynamat and deaden the whole pastic panel??

Then again im thinking that maybe the speaker bass is hitting the plastic panel yeah???

Violin · 10-15-2006, 07:33 AM

Same problem here - only on the left rear and only on certain bass heavy tracks. I'll get around to a fix. I'm thinking of applying that low expanding foam - the kind you use to seal around windows and doors - directly to the plastic panel.

hasher22 · 10-15-2006, 08:03 AM

Sucks hey......i ripped of the cotton crap of the plastic panels...i dont even think they do anything cuz they wernt stuck on tha panel just by 4 locks.....

Hmmm i guess i have to dynamat the whole thing???

Bones · 10-15-2006, 08:17 AM

Are you running an amp to the front speakers and a sub? If you are, try high pass on your front speaker

hasher22 · 10-15-2006, 08:22 AM

Nope just a head unit and speakers. Gonna get an amp soon.

W.A.S.P · 10-15-2006, 10:27 AM

Hasher, I'm getting a lot of rattle with my new speakers. I think I will end up rubber mounting them to the door.

Bones · 10-15-2006, 10:57 AM

I’m using the factory radio, Alpine four channel amp and two way Boston Acoustics speakers front 6 1/2 and 6X9 in the rear. A subwoofer is not a consideration as I don’t want to give up trunk space or the spare tire. I also installed Dynamat on the rear deck, trunk and doors.

With the crossover off front and back it sounded really good, but I had to turn up the bass on the radio to get it to sound the way I want. The trunk and the rear deck had no rattles. But the door was rattling, I tried to apply more Dynamat, didn’t work. It wasn’t the metal vibrating, more the panel vibrating.

I turned on the high pass crossover on the amp at 50hz for the front. The rear I left full ranged but turned on the bass gain for the rear. With this setting I can leave the bass on 0 or flat on the deck. Since the 6X9 can produce more bass, I was able to push the rear more than the front. Bass is omni directional so it blends in with the front sound.

This was my solution to my car and it sounds

ECHOKnight2000 · 10-15-2006, 02:05 PM

I got my dynamat perfessionally installed and it rattles or buzzes on the driverside in the front, it annoys me but I live with it...obviously it varies depending on the music. I listen to the passengerside and I didn't hear the same thing, it just seems the front

hasher22 · 10-15-2006, 10:38 AM

even if u rubber mount them, you will still get rattles from other areas.

Lafiro · 10-15-2006, 02:24 PM

no matter how loud i make my subs go, i could hear them two+ blocks away/ and the only thing i hear rattle is the panel of the back speakers, and the outside of the back of the car. I guess im lucky that my door panels are not vibrating... lol

And I will be dynomating it all myself this week.

Lafiro · 10-15-2006, 02:28 PM

Oh, I hate one thing though. I need to change my battery/alt because I cant max anything out. If I do, everything is shot, the voice, the lights... etc..

Any suggestions on what I can do to fix? I got a CAP that is just sitting here, would that help? Or should I also install a much stronger battery first?(question is, isnt that bad for the car to have a batteryt hats too strong for it???)

johnnyfive · 10-16-2006, 12:06 AM

what you need is an alternator that can supply more current...

fnkngrv · 10-16-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyfive

what you need is an alternator that can supply more current...

That is exactly correct....trouble is what higher amperage Alt is compatible? The CAP helps as well.

As for the rattle....maybe it is just the LB that is having the issues? My Sedan sounds really sweet. I have had a lot of compliments. Actually I have had people ask me where I have the tweets for my component setup....I am not running a component setup. I have Eclipse SE8365's in the front and SE8495's in the rear. I can hoonestly say that I have not heard a better set of speakers without spending 250 a pair. These are running on a HiFonics TXi 4406 at 75% gain to give about 40 RMS to each speaker. I have a Bazooka 10200 in the trunk running at about 90% on the gain, so around 185 RMS. The overall sound quality is crazy and even when I maxed the outputs all the way around I never get a rattle or anything like that. Like I said....maybe it is an LB thing? Running what I have can get really loud and clear as it is...if you are running more then all I have to say is "wow" cause you must be going deaf...nothing for nothing, but sometimes you can have too much volume, but that is just my opinion....and opinions are like bungholes....

hasher22 · 10-16-2006, 01:02 AM

Get lost sedan owner. Mr. I have no rattles. :P

yarisugi · 11-08-2009, 01:37 AM

Wow! That is some serious sh!t - that gray thing in your final photos, is that just foam?
Come back soon! You gotta make a thread on your car!

sqcomp · 11-08-2009, 03:08 AM

Yarisugi, how's Hawaii? :)

That is a 1/4" of Ensolite foam over at least two layers of Stinger Roadkill Pro. The trunk lid is serious. I have three layers of Roadkill with 1/2" of foam...and the stock cover STILL fits on the lid! It looks almost quilted though...

Oh, hell with it. Here's the trunk lid. Note that I forgot to take pictures of me laying down the Roadkill. I was on a roll from finishing the right side front door...

This is with the stock cover off. I'm plugging the small holes in preparation for foam in the "skeleton":

This is after the latex foam, roadkill, and the ensolite...and before the cover is put back on:

Notice the hole on the right there?

Here's the solution:

It actually blends better that the picture portrays. The flash brings out the difference between CAE matting and painted metal.

With the floor pan and back seat done, the shop owner has said that the car is quieter than his last AMG Merc. Not bad since it's a Toyota Yaris and it has more deadening to come.

Again, this problem that is being experienced can be alleviated. That panel needs to be deadened. The factory grill needs to come off to relieve the pressure put on it from the speaker being right behind it. Unfortunately for us, the grill is part of the panel. It's an easy fix though. It just takes time, some tools, and the willingness to live with a modified door panel (vs stock).

...as for my own thread...

I'll have one eventually. Lord knows I've got enough pictures. The test enclosures for the three way components, A-pillars, the kick "pods", the doors, the subwoofer enclosure, the amp rack, the custom mount for the Carrozzeria...it's all coming in April to a thread near you...

That Carrozzeria piece is spectacular. It's a beautiful, all in one DIN dual 30 band EQ, four 24 bit DAC, 4 way crossover, time alignment, and CD tuner. It's sitting at the shop under glass with the three way set just waiting for me to come home. I think I'm going to cry! I miss the smell of fiberglass resin, the snip of speaker wires, the occasional cursing cause one cuts his hand, the beer after hours...

...man I miss the beer...

JayTee09 · 11-08-2009, 03:51 AM

^^^Thats a sexxy unit dude. KUDOS

sqcomp · 11-08-2009, 04:47 AM

The "downfall" for me is that if it ever needs anything beyond basic PMCS, it'll need to go back to Japan. That's the price for buying a "grey market" piece. At least I have the contact to do so...

...and I'm STILL 7000 miles away from this piece. It's mine, and I've never even touched it...

Anyone guess why I'm waiting so anxiously to get home? Wife, friends, and car audio.

10-15-2006, 06:32 AM	#1
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Pissed with the door panels....... Well then dynamattin to get rid of the rattles does work, but spending more money on dyanmattin the plastic door panel skin is another job. My rear speaker plastic panels IS NOW makin the rattling noises. I know this becuz when i took off the plastic panel and played some bassy songs, obviously theres no rattles....when i attached it back and played the same songs, the rattling noise would come back again. So i know its the plastic panels. Now i dynamatted around the speaker hole, that didnt seem to eliminate it. So i guess i have to buy more dynamat and deaden the whole pastic panel?? Then again im thinking that maybe the speaker bass is hitting the plastic panel yeah??? __________________

10-15-2006, 08:03 AM	#3
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Sucks hey......i ripped of the cotton crap of the plastic panels...i dont even think they do anything cuz they wernt stuck on tha panel just by 4 locks..... Hmmm i guess i have to dynamat the whole thing??? __________________

10-15-2006, 08:22 AM	#5
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Nope just a head unit and speakers. Gonna get an amp soon. __________________

10-15-2006, 02:05 PM	#8
ECHOKnight2000 Small Car Lover View User's Garage Drives: A Super Car Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota, US of A! Posts: 830	I got my dynamat perfessionally installed and it rattles or buzzes on the driverside in the front, it annoys me but I live with it...obviously it varies depending on the music. I listen to the passengerside and I didn't hear the same thing, it just seems the front __________________ You may look good on the beach but in reality you're a pompus, egotistical jerk. "I was never on the beach with you..."and you never will.

10-15-2006, 10:38 AM	#9
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	even if u rubber mount them, you will still get rattles from other areas. __________________

10-15-2006, 07:33 AM	#2
Violin View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,592	Same problem here - only on the left rear and only on certain bass heavy tracks. I'll get around to a fix. I'm thinking of applying that low expanding foam - the kind you use to seal around windows and doors - directly to the plastic panel.

10-15-2006, 08:17 AM	#4
Bones Drives: 07 Yaris S Type Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 42	Are you running an amp to the front speakers and a sub? If you are, try high pass on your front speaker

10-15-2006, 10:27 AM	#6
W.A.S.P I love my Yaris! Drives: White Yaris Liftback 2 Dr. AT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 164	Hasher, I'm getting a lot of rattle with my new speakers. I think I will end up rubber mounting them to the door.

10-15-2006, 10:57 AM	#7
Bones Drives: 07 Yaris S Type Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 42	I’m using the factory radio, Alpine four channel amp and two way Boston Acoustics speakers front 6 1/2 and 6X9 in the rear. A subwoofer is not a consideration as I don’t want to give up trunk space or the spare tire. I also installed Dynamat on the rear deck, trunk and doors. With the crossover off front and back it sounded really good, but I had to turn up the bass on the radio to get it to sound the way I want. The trunk and the rear deck had no rattles. But the door was rattling, I tried to apply more Dynamat, didn’t work. It wasn’t the metal vibrating, more the panel vibrating. I turned on the high pass crossover on the amp at 50hz for the front. The rear I left full ranged but turned on the bass gain for the rear. With this setting I can leave the bass on 0 or flat on the deck. Since the 6X9 can produce more bass, I was able to push the rear more than the front. Bass is omni directional so it blends in with the front sound. This was my solution to my car and it sounds

10-15-2006, 02:24 PM	#10
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	no matter how loud i make my subs go, i could hear them two+ blocks away/ and the only thing i hear rattle is the panel of the back speakers, and the outside of the back of the car. I guess im lucky that my door panels are not vibrating... lol And I will be dynomating it all myself this week.

10-15-2006, 02:28 PM	#11
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	Oh, I hate one thing though. I need to change my battery/alt because I cant max anything out. If I do, everything is shot, the voice, the lights... etc.. Any suggestions on what I can do to fix? I got a CAP that is just sitting here, would that help? Or should I also install a much stronger battery first?(question is, isnt that bad for the car to have a batteryt hats too strong for it???)

10-16-2006, 12:06 AM	#12
johnnyfive Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 582	what you need is an alternator that can supply more current...

10-16-2006, 01:02 AM	#14
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Get lost sedan owner. Mr. I have no rattles. :P __________________

11-08-2009, 01:37 AM	#15
yarisugi やりすぎだ～ View User's Garage Drives: Me: Nuts: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ハワイ Posts: 2,041	Wow! That is some serious sh!t - that gray thing in your final photos, is that just foam? Come back soon! You gotta make a thread on your car!

11-08-2009, 03:08 AM	#16
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yarisugi, how's Hawaii? :) That is a 1/4" of Ensolite foam over at least two layers of Stinger Roadkill Pro. The trunk lid is serious. I have three layers of Roadkill with 1/2" of foam...and the stock cover STILL fits on the lid! It looks almost quilted though... Oh, hell with it. Here's the trunk lid. Note that I forgot to take pictures of me laying down the Roadkill. I was on a roll from finishing the right side front door... This is with the stock cover off. I'm plugging the small holes in preparation for foam in the "skeleton": This is after the latex foam, roadkill, and the ensolite...and before the cover is put back on: Notice the hole on the right there? Here's the solution: It actually blends better that the picture portrays. The flash brings out the difference between CAE matting and painted metal. With the floor pan and back seat done, the shop owner has said that the car is quieter than his last AMG Merc. Not bad since it's a Toyota Yaris and it has more deadening to come. Again, this problem that is being experienced can be alleviated. That panel needs to be deadened. The factory grill needs to come off to relieve the pressure put on it from the speaker being right behind it. Unfortunately for us, the grill is part of the panel. It's an easy fix though. It just takes time, some tools, and the willingness to live with a modified door panel (vs stock). ...as for my own thread... I'll have one eventually. Lord knows I've got enough pictures. The test enclosures for the three way components, A-pillars, the kick "pods", the doors, the subwoofer enclosure, the amp rack, the custom mount for the Carrozzeria...it's all coming in April to a thread near you... That Carrozzeria piece is spectacular. It's a beautiful, all in one DIN dual 30 band EQ, four 24 bit DAC, 4 way crossover, time alignment, and CD tuner. It's sitting at the shop under glass with the three way set just waiting for me to come home. I think I'm going to cry! I miss the smell of fiberglass resin, the snip of speaker wires, the occasional cursing cause one cuts his hand, the beer after hours... ...man I miss the beer... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 11-08-2009 at 03:30 AM.

11-08-2009, 03:51 AM	#17
JayTee09 4dr=FTW View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 107	^^^Thats a sexxy unit dude. KUDOS

11-08-2009, 04:47 AM	#18
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The "downfall" for me is that if it ever needs anything beyond basic PMCS, it'll need to go back to Japan. That's the price for buying a "grey market" piece. At least I have the contact to do so... ...and I'm STILL 7000 miles away from this piece. It's mine, and I've never even touched it... Anyone guess why I'm waiting so anxiously to get home? Wife, friends, and car audio. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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