Manual transmission - Toyota Yaris Forums

attrapereves · 02-05-2015, 08:13 PM

I've had my car for about a week. I find the little Yaris with 5spd particularly difficult to drive smoothly.

Takeoffs are the most difficult. I either give it too much gas and the car slingshots forward, or not enough and it shudders a little.

What should the RPM be to start from a stop on flat ground? Also, around what RPM does this car prefer to be shifted?

Betrivent · 02-05-2015, 10:07 PM

This is different for every car.. I honestly don't shift by RPM anymore, just by feel.

IllusionX · 02-05-2015, 10:31 PM

I do short trips these days. So my RPM idles at 1500rpm. I no longer need to give it "gas" to take off.

Because the IDLE is always different depending on engine operation/temperature, you have to adapt yourself.

Since i drive such short trips, when i get to drive around more, and the engine has time to warm up and idles at 650rpm, then I end up stalling once in a while. :P

Kar98 · 02-05-2015, 11:40 PM

You'll get used to it. The Yaris is actually the first car that I had where I have to follow the instructions of letting gas come and clutch go gently. Every other car, the clutch was pretty much digital, either on or off.

fnkngrv · 02-06-2015, 12:14 AM

been so long since I have had the stock clutch that I can't almost recall. I can say that I agree the stock clutch is a PITA in my book though. The Drive-By-Wire system is a lot to blame too.

Em_ · 02-06-2015, 07:57 PM

my hatchbach ised to idle at 550rpm and used to launch at around 1100 rpm saves a lot of wear
i have an automatic 4 door yaris now
fedup shifting

Kar98 · 02-06-2015, 08:19 PM

Well look at Canadian Monsieur Fancy-Pantalons here with his Canadian tach and manual transmission ;)

But seriously, 550 revs at idle? 1100 to shift? I don't have a tach in my Yaris, but pretty much every other car I had before idled around 950 to 1100 and I shifted at around five grand. Shifting up at 1100? Do you get mistaken for a geographical feature a lot? :P

Em_ · 02-09-2015, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kar98

Well look at Canadian Monsieur Fancy-Pantalons here with his Canadian tach and manual transmission ;)

But seriously, 550 revs at idle? 1100 to shift? I don't have a tach in my Yaris, but pretty much every other car I had before idled around 950 to 1100 and I shifted at around five grand. Shifting up at 1100? Do you get mistaken for a geographical feature a lot? :P

From a stop yes 1100 driving like a grandpa

nookandcrannycar · 02-10-2015, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kar98

and I shifted at around five grand.

This procedure = fun, but = MPG

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Kar98 · 02-26-2015, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

This procedure = fun, but = MPG

.

Meh. I still get 35 mpg in the city.

nookandcrannycar · 02-26-2015, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kar98

Meh. I still get 35 mpg in the city.

Do you turn the engine off at red traffic lights

? (jk)

edmscan · 02-27-2015, 12:49 AM

Even though I have been driving a standard for over 30 years .. when I got the Yaris .... it was a bit touchy. I stalled it a few times.

But now I am pretty used to it and it works well. But it is definitely harder to use than my 1980 Toyota Tercel, 1980 Honda Civic or 1987 Honda Accord that preceded it.

My fave of them all ... it is a tie between the Tercel, Civic and Yaris. They were all great cars.

I shift at about 2500 rpm.

IllusionX · 02-07-2015, 10:20 AM

Mine idled at 550 before I cleaned the TB.

nookandcrannycar · 02-08-2015, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllusionX

Mine idled at 550 before I cleaned the TB.

Aha! I was wondering what the reason might be re my '14 idling at a higher RPM than my '07. I've never cleaned the TB on my '07

.

nookandcrannycar · 02-08-2015, 06:14 PM

I agree with many of the points Debby and Deathegg have made. I've owned a Mitsubishi Galant VR-4, a Mirage/Colt, a Scirocco, a Suzuki Swift, and a GTI...all with manual transmissions. Each of those was easier to drive than either my '07 MT or my '14 MT Yaris. I'd think even the 2nd Gen Yaris would be a hard adjustment for a novice manual transmission driver. My '14 doesn't seem to have the 'notchiness' in 1st gear that the '07 does. I'm PGD at launching on a steep incline in 1st gear. Could do this even in my '07 (at least when it was 'younger'). With my '14...forget it. One of the ramps in the parking structure at The Galleria in Houston is pretty steep (it is so flat here, this is the only time so far that I've encountered this issue

). I was on it in my '14 in bumper to bumper traffic one day fairly close to Christmas. I had to use the parking brake during that experience to keep from stalling.

Betrivent · 02-08-2015, 12:01 AM

Mine idles around 650 ish

fourbangingfun · 02-08-2015, 12:14 AM

Launch between 1100-1500 rpm when on zero slope, and little higher if going up a hill.

And usually up shift around 3k

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MUSKOKA800 · 02-08-2015, 01:31 PM

You'll get used to it. We all have. It's done by feel. Driving off is no time to be looking over at the tach.
The engagement of the Yaris is like none of the many manuals I've experienced.
After 6+ years and over 165.000 kilometers I still stall mine occasionally. Switching from one pair of shoes to another with different sole thickness often catches me out.

02-05-2015, 08:13 PM	#1
attrapereves Drives: 2010 Yaris 2dr 5spd Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: KCMO Posts: 78	Manual transmission I've had my car for about a week. I find the little Yaris with 5spd particularly difficult to drive smoothly. Takeoffs are the most difficult. I either give it too much gas and the car slingshots forward, or not enough and it shudders a little. What should the RPM be to start from a stop on flat ground? Also, around what RPM does this car prefer to be shifted?

02-05-2015, 10:31 PM	#3
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	I do short trips these days. So my RPM idles at 1500rpm. I no longer need to give it "gas" to take off. Because the IDLE is always different depending on engine operation/temperature, you have to adapt yourself. Since i drive such short trips, when i get to drive around more, and the engine has time to warm up and idles at 650rpm, then I end up stalling once in a while. :P __________________

02-06-2015, 12:14 AM	#5
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	been so long since I have had the stock clutch that I can't almost recall. I can say that I agree the stock clutch is a PITA in my book though. The Drive-By-Wire system is a lot to blame too. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

02-07-2015, 10:20 AM	#13
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	Mine idled at 550 before I cleaned the TB. __________________

02-08-2015, 12:14 AM	#17
fourbangingfun Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: MA Posts: 105	Manual transmission Launch between 1100-1500 rpm when on zero slope, and little higher if going up a hill. And usually up shift around 3k Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-05-2015, 10:07 PM	#2
Betrivent Not quite a noob Drives: e46 325 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: edmonton Posts: 1,408	This is different for every car.. I honestly don't shift by RPM anymore, just by feel.

02-05-2015, 11:40 PM	#4
Kar98 Drives: 2011 Scion tC Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: DFW Posts: 651	You'll get used to it. The Yaris is actually the first car that I had where I have to follow the instructions of letting gas come and clutch go gently. Every other car, the clutch was pretty much digital, either on or off.

02-06-2015, 07:57 PM	#6
Em_ Drives: 2007 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Laval, Canada Posts: 74	my hatchbach ised to idle at 550rpm and used to launch at around 1100 rpm saves a lot of wear i have an automatic 4 door yaris now fedup shifting

02-06-2015, 08:19 PM	#7
Kar98 Drives: 2011 Scion tC Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: DFW Posts: 651	Well look at Canadian Monsieur Fancy-Pantalons here with his Canadian tach and manual transmission ;) But seriously, 550 revs at idle? 1100 to shift? I don't have a tach in my Yaris, but pretty much every other car I had before idled around 950 to 1100 and I shifted at around five grand. Shifting up at 1100? Do you get mistaken for a geographical feature a lot? :P

02-27-2015, 12:49 AM	#12
edmscan Drives: 2020 Corolla Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 549	Even though I have been driving a standard for over 30 years .. when I got the Yaris .... it was a bit touchy. I stalled it a few times. But now I am pretty used to it and it works well. But it is definitely harder to use than my 1980 Toyota Tercel, 1980 Honda Civic or 1987 Honda Accord that preceded it. My fave of them all ... it is a tie between the Tercel, Civic and Yaris. They were all great cars. I shift at about 2500 rpm.

02-08-2015, 06:14 PM	#15
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	I agree with many of the points Debby and Deathegg have made. I've owned a Mitsubishi Galant VR-4, a Mirage/Colt, a Scirocco, a Suzuki Swift, and a GTI...all with manual transmissions. Each of those was easier to drive than either my '07 MT or my '14 MT Yaris. I'd think even the 2nd Gen Yaris would be a hard adjustment for a novice manual transmission driver. My '14 doesn't seem to have the 'notchiness' in 1st gear that the '07 does. I'm PGD at launching on a steep incline in 1st gear. Could do this even in my '07 (at least when it was 'younger'). With my '14...forget it. One of the ramps in the parking structure at The Galleria in Houston is pretty steep (it is so flat here, this is the only time so far that I've encountered this issue ). I was on it in my '14 in bumper to bumper traffic one day fairly close to Christmas. I had to use the parking brake during that experience to keep from stalling.

02-08-2015, 12:01 AM	#16
Betrivent Not quite a noob Drives: e46 325 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: edmonton Posts: 1,408	Mine idles around 650 ish

02-08-2015, 01:31 PM	#18
MUSKOKA800 Drives: Scion FRS RS2, ‘21 Crosstrek Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,729	You'll get used to it. We all have. It's done by feel. Driving off is no time to be looking over at the tach. The engagement of the Yaris is like none of the many manuals I've experienced. After 6+ years and over 165.000 kilometers I still stall mine occasionally. Switching from one pair of shoes to another with different sole thickness often catches me out. __________________ TRD Upgrades: 18" Wheels wrapped in 215/35/18 PZero's, Sportivo Shocks/Struts, Lowering Springs, Swaybar, Axle-Back Exhaust, Oil Cap, Rad Cap, Signage. Aftermarket Goodies: Piggies SS, K&N Drop-In, Blitz S/C, DC Header, NST Pulley) Toyota Options/Accessories: Sport Pedal Covers, Sport Shift Knob, Ipod Interface, Summer Mats, Winter Mats, Cruise Control, Auto-Dim Mirror, Echo steelies with winter boots.

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