Does any other auto tranny Yaris owner regret not getting the MT?

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by thepartsmancometh

the yaris is fine with an AT, but I couldn't imagine anything sportier with an AT. I drive an MT as my DD and don't find it bothersome even in heavy/construction traffic. Once you get used to it, its second nature. I strongly believe in having control over my vehicle.

and now...
to get on my soapbox....if everyone drove MT cars, there'd be less distracted/drunk/cell phone blathering idiots driving. it wouldn't eliminate them all, but its harder to do those things and shift at the same time!

Or actually increase the distractions since stupid people will do stupid things no matter what they drive.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by daf62757

Or actually increase the distractions since stupid people will do stupid things no matter what they drive.

So you don't think it is harder to do those stupid things if you have to shift? REALLY?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by thepartsmancometh

the yaris is fine with an AT, but I couldn't imagine anything sportier with an AT. I drive an MT as my DD and don't find it bothersome even in heavy/construction traffic. Once you get used to it, its second nature. I strongly believe in having control over my vehicle.

and now...
to get on my soapbox....if everyone drove MT cars, there'd be less distracted/drunk/cell phone blathering idiots driving. it wouldn't eliminate them all, but its harder to do those things and shift at the same time!

I'm right up there with you on your soapbox. If anyone drives south on Biscayne Blvd in Miami for any length of time, on that experience alone, they will realize the truthfulness of the words you speak from your soapbox.

[churp]

The ocassional emergency power situation is in favor of the automatic....don't always have that extra second to downshift to 2nd or 3rd. Haven't seen too many law enforcment with manuals for a few decades either.

[yaris2010RS]

Originally Posted by churp

The ocassional emergency power situation is in favor of the automatic....don't always have that extra second to downshift to 2nd or 3rd. Haven't seen too many law enforcment with manuals for a few decades either.

lazy north america has auto police enforcement, everywhere else in the world has all m/t police cars

better to drive, cheaper to repair and just a different way of life

[yours_falsely]

i love my auto, but every so often i miss driving manual and wish i had gone with it. it's not an every day thing but it does happen

[ecc_33]

i regret not spending the extra grand for a automatic

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

i don't always drive manual, but when i do, i prefer dos equis

[Connoisseur_of_fine_cars]

Never been a fan of slushbox in small econobox. They're dangerous when trying to merge into traffic. You can't control what gear you're in. You stomp on the gas pedal, and you get no response for a second and then the slushbox changes gear and then it goes. Way too slow! Going to get plowed by the 3-ton SUV bearing down on you. Trying to shift in a slushbox is just awkward. If you live in areas with hills and mountains, forget it. If you have to have a slushbox because you have a handicap, get a V6 or V8 for its torque. Don't tell me shifting is too much trouble--my 62-y.o. mother commutes to work 20 miles everyday in a stick shift Honda.

[Chuck G]

Originally Posted by Connoisseur_of_fine_cars

Never been a fan of slushbox in small econobox. They're dangerous when trying to merge into traffic. You can't control what gear you're in. You stomp on the gas pedal, and you get no response for a second and then the slushbox changes gear and then it goes. Way too slow! Going to get plowed by the 3-ton SUV bearing down on you. Trying to shift in a slushbox is just awkward. If you live in areas with hills and mountains, forget it. If you have to have a slushbox because you have a handicap, get a V6 or V8 for its torque. Don't tell me shifting is too much trouble--my 62-y.o. mother commutes to work 20 miles everyday in a stick shift Honda.

You won't have any of those problems with the auto in the Yaris.
This transmission is exceptional!

[NZ-FE Vios]

My friend has an auto sedan and I have a manual. Hers is definitely not as zippy as mine and doesn't seem to enjoy being pushed a little bit extra. Currently it is very responsive but I'll out run her anyday. Just not the same.

[cali yaris]

Enjoy your primitive clutching and manual gear changes, guys

Am.

[MadMax]

It wasn't that long ago that it was near impossible to find an automatic transmission on most cars in Europe. When we took our new US-specs VW Passat over to Germany in 1995 the Germans were surprised that we'd want an automatic transmission on it. That is no longer the case, automatic transmissions have advanced so far that more and more supercars are using them.

Fight or deny it all you want, but the manual transmission is doomed like the 8-track tape. Technology is replacing it and I suspect it won't be too long before the vast majority of vehicles come equipped with automatic transmissions, even subcompacts such as our beloved Yaris. I hope to see paddle-shifters on it one day!

Cheers! M2

[Chuck G]

Originally Posted by MadMax

It wasn't that long ago that it was near impossible to find an automatic transmission on most cars in Europe. When we took our new US-specs VW Passat over to Germany in 1995 the Germans were surprised that we'd want an automatic transmission on it. That is no longer the case, automatic transmissions have advanced so far that more and more supercars are using them.

Fight or deny it all you want, but the manual transmission is doomed like the 8-track tape. Technology is replacing it and I suspect it won't be too long before the vast majority of vehicles come equipped with automatic transmissions, even subcompacts such as our beloved Yaris. I hope to see paddle-shifters on it one day!

Cheers! M2

Agreed!

[NZ-FE Vios]

Sure a new sequentially geared transmission can possibly shift faster and may be more efficient in burning fuel. The problems that will and do arise with new automatics is that they are too complicated, too many moving parts.

They are incredibly expensive to work and replace. I have a friend who spent near $7g replacing a sequential gearbox on a maxima with 78,000miles.

Sure, they could eventually work out the reliability issues, but then people would be less inclined to just move up to a bigger and better vehicle instead of repairing.

Personally, I'd rather have the tried and true "buggy" gearbox that I know I can pull and rebuild if I needed to. I also know that other than clutch and gear oil, my transmission will most likely still function properly when it has near 300kmiles like my truck does.

I would not be too happy with a slushbox at over 100k, not shifting up or down properly, bucking when being put in drive, just letting off the brake and having the car try to take off and then the bottom line of it feeling like a video game. An older lady I knew referred to driving an automatic as an aiming game, just kinda point and shoot.

[Chuck G]

Originally Posted by NZ-FE Vios

Sure a new sequentially geared transmission can possibly shift faster and may be more efficient in burning fuel. The problems that will and do arise with new automatics is that they are too complicated, too many moving parts.

They are incredibly expensive to work and replace. I have a friend who spent near $7g replacing a sequential gearbox on a maxima with 78,000miles.

Sure, they could eventually work out the reliability issues, but then people would be less inclined to just move up to a bigger and better vehicle instead of repairing.

Personally, I'd rather have the tried and true "buggy" gearbox that I know I can pull and rebuild if I needed to. I also know that other than clutch and gear oil, my transmission will most likely still function properly when it has near 300kmiles like my truck does.

I would not be too happy with a slushbox at over 100k, not shifting up or down properly, bucking when being put in drive, just letting off the brake and having the car try to take off and then the bottom line of it feeling like a video game. An older lady I knew referred to driving an automatic as an aiming game, just kinda point and shoot.

Reliability hasn't been a problem with the Yaris (we're talking about the Yaris right?)

[NZ-FE Vios]

Originally Posted by Chuck G

Reliability hasn't been a problem with the Yaris (we're talking about the Yaris right?)

I think the Yaris one is fine.

More of a general response.

[daf62757]

I think the main point is that what does the car makers consider most cost effective. You can't argue about the efficiencies of a manual transmission. You can argue that when the dealers are selling the shinny and new cars, more people want an automatic. When the manufacturer starts to compare the costs of making manuals vs automatics, if one gives you equal mileage, has more buyer appeal, and saves you production costs....that is the transmission you will produce more of.

As for automatics costing more to repair, yes, they do but I would also argue that they are more reliable than manuals. Most autos go over 100k miles without any problems. Most manuals have to have their clutch worked on because most people....no matter how the person says they know how to drive a clutch....don't know how to operate one.

If automatics were such a horror, why have the vast majorities of all cars and trucks sold today have an automatic for their transmission....cost effectiveness, and reliability. The bottom line will eventually dictate the answer.