Does any other auto tranny Yaris owner regret not getting the MT?

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

Do you want to get even lower RPMs on the highway? If so, that's a "pretty easy" swap: change the 5th gear pinion and driven gears to those from an 03-07 Matrix. You'd be going from 0.815:1 to 0.725:1, meaning a decent drop in RPMs.

If you want the close ratios of a 6-speed gearbox, then the C160 from a Levin Trueno may be a workable solution, otherwise I'm considering picking up a salvage C60 for measuring and fitment tests.

I meant I wanted a 6th gear installed at the factory, with the R&D and tests behind it, and the warranty.

I don't want to chop up my new car. She's not even 550 miles or one month in my ownership. This isn't some old beater I can just dissect and duct tape back together. This is my only means of transportation.

I would want a 6th gear for highway runs, and higher MPG. Though, I'm sure the engine would be lugging at 60mph in the imaginary 6th gear. I'm guessing 1500RPM. Not enough torque in that little mill.

But a man can dream.

[TPA5]

I had an AT 2011 Corolla before some black ice and a telephone pole ended that relationship.

Picked up a MT 2012 Yaris LE a couple weeks ago, and for the first week hated it. Thought I had made a massive mistake getting a MT.

Now in the short span of a week I have gone from hating and regretting the MT to absolutely loving it. I have always liked cars, and with a MT driving is no longer a passive act, but instead a "locking in" of driver and car. Now my car does what I want it to, when I want it to.

I truly hope others are completely wrong when they say MT is going out of style. And I scratch my head somewhat at others who seem to think MT is foolish. Yes, it is another wear item. Realistically, after one gets used to shifiting properly, the clutch should go a long time. A friend of mine has a Toyota truck, 1991 I believe. He has over 400k on it, and still the same clutch. The people who lose a clutch at 50k are those who are unable to adaquetely use one.

Personally, I will drive MT's the rest of my days if I can.

Just my 2 cents though.

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally Posted by CanIHazYarisHatch?

I meant I wanted a 6th gear installed at the factory, with the R&D and tests behind it, and the warranty.

Understood, just passing on what info I have found. My egg is quickly approaching the magical 36k mile mark, and will shortly thereafter get a custom gearbox.

Originally Posted by TPA5

Now in the short span of a week I have gone from hating and regretting the MT to absolutely loving it. I have always liked cars, and with a MT driving is no longer a passive act, but instead a "locking in" of driver and car. Now my car does what I want it to, when I want it to.

Agreed. I think the automatic transmission has made it too easy for people to become a passive participant in driving. Just look at how many people do everything but pay attention to the road. It would be nice to have cruise control for longer trips, but again, that's just another thing that disconnects you from controlling the car.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

Understood, just passing on what info I have found. My egg is quickly approaching the magical 36k mile mark, and will shortly thereafter get a custom gearbox.



Agreed. I think the automatic transmission has made it too easy for people to become a passive participant in driving. Just look at how many people do everything but pay attention to the road. It would be nice to have cruise control for longer trips, but again, that's just another thing that disconnects you from controlling the car.

Agreed, and correct on all points.

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

Understood, just passing on what info I have found. My egg is quickly approaching the magical 36k mile mark, and will shortly thereafter get a custom gearbox.



Agreed. I think the automatic transmission has made it too easy for people to become a passive participant in driving. Just look at how many people do everything but pay attention to the road. It would be nice to have cruise control for longer trips, but again, that's just another thing that disconnects you from controlling the car.

Cruise does not disconnect you from driving the car. It just takes the pain away from constantly having to press the accelerator. You still have to manage speed on interstates caused by people's different speeds.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by daf62757

Cruise does not disconnect you from driving the car. It just takes the pain away from constantly having to press the accelerator. You still have to manage speed on interstates caused by people's different speeds.

Nor does an automatic divorce you from the process of driving versus a manual transmission.

If anything, it can be argued that the latter is a distractor due to the additional functions required to operate the vehicle. Once an auto is in Drive, you can focus on driving.

It is like the ridiculous argument that new drivers should learn on a stick. Bullcrap. I am teaching my teenage son how to drive with my auto Yaris, and once he has the basic techniques down I will then introduce the added actions of a manual transmission.

I have owned many manuals over my 35+ years of driving, but see the wisdom in automatic transmissions and with the advances that have been made in technology, you can see how the manual transmission will slowly fade into the status of 8-track tapes and rotary phones...

[why?]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Nor does an automatic divorce you from the process of driving versus a manual transmission.

If anything, it can be argued that the latter is a distractor due to the additional functions required to operate the vehicle. Once an auto is in Drive, you can focus on driving.

It is like the ridiculous argument that new drivers should learn on a stick. Bullcrap. I am teaching my teenage son how to drive with my auto Yaris, and once he has the basic techniques down I will then introduce the added actions of a manual transmission.

I have owned many manuals over my 35+ years of driving, but see the wisdom in automatic transmissions and with the advances that have been made in technology, you can see how the manual transmission will slowly fade into the status of 8-track tapes and rotary phones...

while I agree learning on an automatic is the way to go, manual transmissions are not going anywhere. There is to much passion and joy from driving a manual transmission and nothing will replace that. Just like paper and pen still exist even though we have computers. Sometimes the tactile senses of something make it so much better.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Nor does an automatic divorce you from the process of driving versus a manual transmission.

If anything, it can be argued that the latter is a distractor due to the additional functions required to operate the vehicle. Once an auto is in Drive, you can focus on driving.

It is like the ridiculous argument that new drivers should learn on a stick. Bullcrap. I am teaching my teenage son how to drive with my auto Yaris, and once he has the basic techniques down I will then introduce the added actions of a manual transmission.

I have owned many manuals over my 35+ years of driving, but see the wisdom in automatic transmissions and with the advances that have been made in technology, you can see how the manual transmission will slowly fade into the status of 8-track tapes and rotary phones...

If you thing that manuals will fade to the status of 8-track tapes and rotary phones, then why bother introducing your son to them at all? You must see some intrinsic value to it.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

Understood, just passing on what info I have found. My egg is quickly approaching the magical 36k mile mark, and will shortly thereafter get a custom gearbox.



Agreed. I think the automatic transmission has made it too easy for people to become a passive participant in driving. Just look at how many people do everything but pay attention to the road. It would be nice to have cruise control for longer trips, but again, that's just another thing that disconnects you from controlling the car.

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[KSIbucky]

I have a manual and I wish I had cruse and thats it. I'm not brave enough to install it on mine. Otherwise I don't need power windows or power locks its a 2dr I can just reach over. An automatic would be nice for when I go to Milwaukee or Chicago but its fun to drop it and go through tunnels and other echoy places.

If my next car isn't manual it will be a big boat cruzer like a buick or a caddy or something that I can almost fall asleep driving.

[SARU311]

I haven't owned a MT for 15 years but had my choice from 3 different ones that they had. (2) AT and (1) MT. Since I drive 450-500 miles a week I wanted to squeeze as many miles out of a tank as I could.

I think it's a lot of fun to drive but maybe I don't have the shifting down right since I'm not getting the MPG's that everyone else is getting.

I think when it's paid off I'll want to get the new CRZ with auto.

[saajlexus]

i dont mind the auto, usually i am driving it early in the morning and the last thing i want to do it move alot, just drive normal so its good.

I am looking into the prius C...

[Hershey]

Do miss the Blazing Blue '08 3 door base model w/ the 5 speed manual . But can live with the gas mileage of the '08 base model sedan with the 4 speed auto . Here's the reason why . Reaching 45 m.p.g. about 32 miles after a fill up and ending up with 40.2 when getting home . City driving killed it , hit many stop lights . Eco meter is set at 94 , so the readings could be a bit higher .

[47_MasoN_47]

I wish I had gotten the MT, mostly for the extra mods you can do to MT and it just being more fun to drive.

[flg]

Originally Posted by 47_MasoN_47

I wish I had gotten the MT, mostly for the extra mods you can do to MT and it just being more fun to drive.

After noticing your avator, looks like an automatic???, what's up there dude? A 45 at that? Is it more fun???

[47_MasoN_47]

lol I don't actually have either of those anymore, but I do have 36 others :P Here's a picture of what my latest purchase was. This one isn't mine, but is almost exactly what it'll look like. Mine is still pending with the BATFE and will be for another couple of months.

It's as automatic as you can get :)

[Hershey]

There was a tan 2nd generation Prius in front of us when the 45 appeared on the Eco-Meter that's pictured above . Had that pic , but deleted it .

[Hershey]

Originally Posted by Hershey

There was a tan 2nd generation Prius in front of us when the 45 appeared on the Eco-Meter that's pictured above . Had that pic , but deleted it .

Ended up with 40.1 m.p.g.. It's an automatic .