Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[sqcomp]

^i think this is the most simple reaction. I completely agree. Congrats D!

Why & s7 - The lame excuses are exactly why I started digging. What they don't like (who does) is criticism. They are correct...I was not there. But I do know, and have done, a much better job at the shows I've promoted and put on.

Heck, I was even informed that Kim Sabourin (IASCA HQ) had to get invoked to get the scoresheets...if that says anything.

[why?]

It says a ton. And is totally absurd. As is the fact that it was obviously told to the loser to publicly apologize on the thread for being a loser.

[sqcomp]

I'd better not look at the thread...I'll be tempted to rub salt in the wounds...

The lesson should be for all prospective and new competitors, make sure you research what you're getting into in regards of competition. Ask people that have been there and done that.

I'm not trying to step onto a soap box BUT...

There are definitely people out there that will step all over you to get what they want. I've seen it at both the local and international level in regards to SQ competition. What does this have to do with D's PA competition? I'd be willing to lay bets not only did the local shop have a car/customer in the amateur class that wanted little competition but also had judges that weren't trained properly and also from the shop itself. This is called "trophy harvesting". This is completely unethical and morally reprehensible. I was even "jockeyed" into being in the Pro/Am class last year to insure Team Hybrids' domination on the West Coast. As a good team player I followed direction...much to my shaggrin.

In my case, I had to recuse myself multiple times from judging classes with competitors that were on the same team as I was. I did that to hold myself above the fray. I held a handful of competitions and judged in multiple IASCA single and double point events. I spent my own coin to go to INAC/SBN to see the ins and outs of the world championships. Later I even competed in said championships.

When you look at that thread we're talking about, know that most of the people talking crap have never even left the local area, let alone ever heard a real championship vehicle. The best example of a "championship vehicle" at the PA show was Julian Ridi's Honda Fit...but even that piece of "loveliness" has big weaknesses.

Listen to these words:

If you want to compete, know that there are unscrupulous people out there that will lie, cheat and steal to get a friggin' stupid trophy. What's even worse is the people that know it happens and don't take a stand to do anything about it. These are moral cowards. I can drop bombs with names but I'll refrain...for now.

The silver lining is that there are people out there that really want to compete for sound and nothing else. I reserve the right to do so at any time (re-join competition) OR to help anyone who lives and breathes SQ sound. Ask and I'll give anyone some really good information on sound, theories, practical application and overall strategy to win in the SQ competitions.

I've seen it at the highest level...in other words, been there done that. Learn from me.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

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I've seen it at the highest level...in other words, been there done that. Learn from me.

A m e n...

PS...
I went yesterday to the post office and nothing, I'm still waiting for the hard copies.

D.

[derickveliz2]

The Yaris had another good contender last week!

Brand new 2013 (3 series BMW)



D.

[derickveliz2]

Yeah!

The Beemer is FASTER... that's ok with me.

D.

[sqcomp]

Is that Beemer yours? Hope so! Great looking car.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Is that Beemer yours? Hope so! Great looking car.

no it's not mine.

I don't like black on BMW any way.

D.

[derickveliz2]

Look what I got today!



D.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Look what I got today!

D.

I bet they were only 3 participants LOL


D.

[Alien Mantis]

Holy jumping jihadi's!
D does his first comp, and the DRAMA is worse than an episode of Jersey Shore.
Tsk tsk.
( I tried to warn you D. You are deep in the quicksand now buddy. )

At least SQcomp is "keepin` it real" for ya. He groomed ya!

[sqcomp]

I was really hoping it wouldn't be like that for D.

That's why I mentioned that I'd buy him a trophy...because some of the sycophants that linger around the "sport" are worse than a flaming case of herpes. They know nothing else aside from competition, their pitiful little world revolves around it...and they desperately try to seem important by showing trophies.

Very few anymore actually participate in it for the love of music. Overwhelmingly it is for what little money there is and the perceived power over those who don't know any better...you hear a "big time" audio name and then never question what they have to say or more appropriately, how they act in the public arena. The nice thing for me is that I noticed it early on while participating at the highest levels available. I took these "people" to task and was summarily ostracized for not towing the proverbial line and having people take ownership for their wrongs.

Something tells me that I'd rather be a person with a clear conscience and morality that is right and true. Think about it, would you rather have someone standing next to you when the chips are down that will sell their soul for a trohpy? Oh hell no.

@ AM - You'd love what I have in the Yaris now! It is almost the polar opposite of what I was running during competition. Does it sound as good? *meh* No, it doesn't image "perfectly" and it has lower power handling...BUT...it took an afternoon to completely install and adjust. It's an "I don't give a F**k what anyone thinks" system. Besides, if I have someone who pisses me off, I have that K3LA to throw a double middle fingered salute with.

[_S7V7N_]

The guy on Diyma was bragging about buying medals. How much them things cost Sq ?

[sqcomp]

I've seen the medals like D has, as low as 80 cents a piece. That's when you buy a buttload though. Heck, if anyone wants a medal or trophy, I've still got some hanging around the shop that I purchased with my own money a couple years ago...I still broke even with a 38 car field for our first show at $25 entry fee (for a 2x IASCA event).

They're probably buing them for a little over a $1 a peice plus the stickers for them. That being said, with MECA, you buy the "Event package" that includes the trophies and medals. The 1x event package, IIRC, is around $250 for the entire event. So, the trophies/medals are ultimately cheap honestly.

Anyone that says they spent a lot of money on them is either lying to you or is an idiot for paying so much for them. That phrase, "a lot" means different things to different people.

My opinion is that if you're bragging about trophies and medals at a 1x or even a 2x, you're full of $hit one way or another.

[_S7V7N_]

Bro rig me one up that says "Clit Boxing Champ". See who reads it. Lollll

[sqcomp]

Wow! I'll send you a trophy that says, "I beat herpes" instead...

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

@ AM - You'd love what I have in the Yaris now! It is almost the polar opposite of what I was running during competition. Does it sound as good? *meh* No, it doesn't image "perfectly" and it has lower power handling...BUT...it took an afternoon to completely install and adjust. It's an "I don't give a F**k what anyone thinks" system.

SWEET! That's what I am talkin` about!
I'll bet it DOES sound great. Certainly not at the level you are used to, but more than good enough for anyone who enjoys listening to "music" and not going to competitions.

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I was really hoping it wouldn't be like that for D.
That's why I mentioned that I'd buy him a trophy...because some of the sycophants that linger around the "sport" are worse than a flaming case of herpes. They know nothing else aside from competition, their pitiful little world revolves around it...and they desperately try to seem important by showing trophies.
I noticed it early on while participating at the highest levels available. I took these "people" to task and was summarily ostracized for not towing the proverbial line and having people take ownership for their wrongs.

Which is why I am surprised you would even consider throwing him to the wolves, after what you have been through.
We all know D does deserve a trophy. But like you said, it ain't about harvesting trophies anyway.

It's about.... Keepin` it REAL, dawg!