Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Try to use all of the source's pre outs. This will give you the best control from the unit.

Yes, I'm ...

I almost have the same configuration as you do, but not as fancy and powerful.

400w X 1 amp for Subwoofer (10" one or 3) I would like a 15"

80w X 2 amp for 6.5 Mid bass

65w X 4 amp for 3.5 Midrange and tweeters

So far I've been playing with the 6.5 Mid bass and already sounds better than stock, bass is really good, with some songs I can feel the bass in my chest. I know I've been plying with the crossover points and made the Mid bass sound more like a full range speaker (for now) but slowly I will make the other amps and speakers available, that's why I would like to know what frequencies go with each speaker, I guess it's also a trial and error with what ever sounds better.

one question about TA (Time Alignment) it gave me the options to dial in inches for each driver, this means from speaker to my hears?

I was able to save one of my own EQ into memory 1 makes a big difference with EQ= FLAT

TOO MUCH FUN with this little HU

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[sqcomp]

Well...what I'd suggest with TA is to measure from the center of the car, oh around the domelight. If you measure form your head, your stage will be skewed right. I have pretty damned good TA measures. I'll give those to you over PM...I'd rather keep the "secret" of my center image between us. That being said, my speaker setup, and therefore my TA, is going to be different than yours.

My by ear EQ has the top end a raised slightly, the midbass is cut WAY down. I'm WAY down. The kick loading of the 8"s and the cabin response of the Yaris sedan lends itself to midbass response. Oh boy does it.

You can do a 15". Look at the Image Dynamics ID 15, your power availability is right in it's power band.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Well...what I'd suggest with TA is to measure from the center of the car, oh around the domelight. If you measure form your head, your stage will be skewed right.
You can do a 15". Look at the Image Dynamics ID 15, your power availability is right in it's power band.

YES, YES, YES... you are RIGHT!

This morning on my way to work I noticed the stage was skewed to the right, and I had no clue, but guess what?... last night I set up TA with measurements to my head! so you are correct! I'll dial in new measurements, thanks

I like the idea of a ID 15 in a 2.3 cuft. in a ported box, where do I buy one of this?

Thanks!

[sqcomp]

Hmmm...from the same guys who sold you the mids! :D Just tell Jim I sent you. The ID woofer isn't expensive. Not like mine thank the Lord. You're going to love this woofer.

Also, pick Jim's brain about the enclosure if you have any specific questions about it.

Also, ID has a website where you can get even more specifics on enclosure questions. Heck, you can even talk to the guys that designed it.

I'll tell Jim you're going to call sometime soon.

[derickveliz2]

Remember this panel? (B-pillard)





I removed the passengers side to move around cables,
and I never really notice how much road noise comes through,
now that the car is 95% deaden I can assure you that this panel it's a must after all,
specially if you do doors and floor.

2 cts.
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[derickveliz2]

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Just a quick shot of the interior looking at the new bezel, photos and/or videos of the P99 in action will follow soon!



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[derickveliz2]

I made this sketch to my self last night!

It's just the beginning of the layout for my amps with rough measurements,
I will draw this to scale later, and then will try to build it.

Basically it's a top view, the amps go on the floor between front and rear seats, I will rise the floor over this area to protect the amps.
Only my kids go in the back, and not very often, so they wouldn't mind the floor been 4 inches higher.

The wires from the left are coming from the HU: (from left to right)

-6CD Charger magazine that will go in the trunk

-(+) or blue wire, this is the one that turns "ON" the amps when the HU is turned "ON"

-Then we have audio signals (RCA cables) from HU:

- High
- Mid
- Low
- Sub

On the top right side of the sketch the main power (+) line and a distribution block with 3 Maxi fuses [20amp, 30amp, 40amp] (one for each amp)

On the bottom right the "Ground" (-) wire to a distribution block that leads to one amp and then to another distribution block for the other 2 amps
(Should I make individual ground connections for each amp? or is this Ok?)

The base is a 1/2 plywood sheet that will cut down to shape and it's overall dimensions are 16"x48" with a small grove in the middle for the Arm-rest and center console, of about 6"x8"

I will cover this with black carpet or trunk liner.

The first amp it's a 65watts x 4 running Mids and Highs audio signals (3" midrange speaker and tweeter)

The amp in the middle handles 60x2 for the Lows (6.5 drivers in the doors)

The amp on the left handles 400x1 for the Sub(s) (I'm figuring out what to use, I have three 10" kicker solobarics in a box but it's too heavy)

Then if everything goes Ok I will build a structure and have a 3/4" board on top covered with carpet and then you won't see any amps.

This is the plan, let's see what happens

D.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Well...what I'd suggest with TA is to measure from the center of the car, oh around the domelight. If you measure form your head, your stage will be skewed right. I have pretty damned good TA measures. I'll give those to you over PM...I'd rather keep the "secret" of my center image between us. That being said, my speaker setup, and therefore my TA, is going to be different than yours.

Thanks sqcomp,
I'm starting to understand Time Alignment Here is a graphic I found online that makes sense for me. So the distance from the center of each speaker to the dome-light! so TA is equal on Left and Right? or where is the sweet point?




D.


PS.... How does the Posi (position L or R) at the menu of the HU relates to TA?

BTW ... I e-mail Jim about the 15" woofer but haven't hear from him...


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[sqcomp]

Take a picture of that HU L&R screen. I've seen it before but I don't remember at the moment exactly what you're talking about.

I'll holler at Jim about the e-mail.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Take a picture of that HU L&R screen. I've seen it before but I don't remember at the moment exactly what you're talking about.

I'll holler at Jim about the e-mail.

I got pictures and will post tomorrow, I know what is now, it sets up where your stage is, if it's for Pilot, Passenger or both, I did notice going back an forth that it rotates 180 degrees the Time Alignment, cool

Thanks, I got an email from Jim!

Derick

[sqcomp]

He mentioned that you said something about JL? EEK! :P

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

He mentioned that you said something about JL? EEK! :P

Yeah he told me he is not a fan of JL (L Audio 15W0v2-4), I found one with similar specs to the ID15 and since I don't have an idea about brands I asked him, I've been a Pioneer fan since I was 16 years old, that's why I end up with a P99, jeje

He also pionts out that the ID sounds better (SQ) in a sealed box but since I'm used to my three 10 inch solo-barics that I should consider a ported box.

I'll just keep working with the installation now and figure that out later, even though I was saving for a good pair of tweeters from HAT (that's $200) so I'll see how everything goes and what results I'm getting with what I have now.

Thank you,

Your A-pilars look so SEXY, good job!

D.

[changchewsoon]

hi there, i'm currently using the alpine head unit with an additional imprint processor.

it basically allows the adjustment of the time alignment via software by positioning a microphone in various location and then allow the software to tune itself out.

here, take a look at my post if you want to find out more.

hope it helps! :)

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by changchewsoon

hi there, i'm currently using the alpine head unit with an additional imprint processor.

it basically allows the adjustment of the time alignment via software by positioning a microphone in various location and then allow the software to tune itself out.
hope it helps! :)

Thanks, looks cool. That is why I got the P99 it also comes with a microphone and sound processor, once I get all my speakers and amps going I can run it and will tune itself too.

Derick

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[derickveliz2]

Last night I made the base for the amps I end up using a thinner plywood because that's what I had, but it should work the idea is to keep the amps fixed to the floor, the top cover will be 3/4" to support what ever goes on.

I cut it and covered with walmart $8 auto carpet. (not bad to be my first job covering) I used 3M-77 and regular staples; here are some shots!







Look at those ugly corners, no problem I fixed them!

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Take a picture of that HU L&R screen. I've seen it before but I don't remember at the moment exactly what you're talking about.

Here is a photo of the P99 on the POSI (position) menu.
Like I wrote above this is to select the position of the listener to match the staging.









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[derickveliz2]

This one just for the fun of it!




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[sqcomp]

First...being in the SQ judge mindset, why blue illumination? Our illum is either white or green. Just a personal choice?

I actually like the dual spectrum analyzer screen myself on this deck. I run though with the basic screen up for the most part.

Okay, the screen you're looking at is the factory TA presets. I'd do one of two things for your situation. I'd either take the position Left placement and dial in the TA a smidge AND/OR take notes of the position left distances...you do this by turning on the posi L and then jogging the dial over to the TA section. You'll notice that the deck has already made some adjustments.

Take notes of that posi L measurements and add on.

Now, my setup is mostly A-pillar off axis. Yours is probably a little different. Do what you need to do. I think this is a good start though.

Oh, one note about the auto EQ and auto TA...Do it BUT, be very wary. That auto TA destroyed my center image. I mean really...it did a David Copperfield to the center.

Thoughts?