Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

SoloBaric Pictures:

[Alien Mantis]

Ah-HA!

Now you know what you are dealing with.
You have three "single voice-coil subs", 8ohm each.
Wired in parallel, they give you 2.6 ohms total load.

That Kenwood amp I recommended would push them nicely.
( Or any other subwoofer monoblock amp that has around 1,000 watts RMS @ 2ohm load )

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

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I tap with my hand the new RCA where they plug into the amp (4 channel amp for mids and tweets) and the noise is gone! tap them again and the noise comes back, what a bummer!
is my amp "BAD" ?

do I need 2 new amps or what?

Looks like it!

Good job tracking the problem down. I think you found it.

BTW.... what is the amp that has the problem? Brand, model?
( I hope it's not a really expensive one )

You know, you can move that Pioneer Premier amp you have on your subs over to your components. That would be a better solution for them anyway.
Then just buy that Kenwood classD monoblock for your solobarics.

[derickveliz2]

What if I only use 1 SoloBaric?

as a short term solution...?

Thanks a million

[derickveliz2]

This is the amp with problems...

GM-X1024 and LINK

thanks

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

What if I only use 1 SoloBaric? as a short term solution...?

How about just using your single Bachuka tube?

If it gives you enough low-end, then run it!

This whole discussion was started because you said your three solobarics were only slightly louder than your single Bachuka tube.

Which made no sense to me, until I found out more about the rest of your system.

You seem to be so caught up in what SqComp is doing with his system, you maybe neglected some of the more basic rules of "CAR AUDIO".

I am just offering friendly advice.
Do whatever makes you happy. Have fun with it.
You have questions, and people on this forum like to volunteer their knowledge and experience.

It's all good.

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

This is the amp with problems...

GM-X1024 and LINK

thanks

Oh bummer.

That is a really nice amp. It says it has a 2-year warranty. Have you had it for 2 years already? If it's still under warranty, you might need to send it in for a full check-up.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Alien Mantis

How about just using your single Bachuka tube?

If it gives you enough low-end, then run it!

This whole discussion was started because you said your three solobarics were only slightly louder than your single Bachuka tube.

Which made no sense to me, until I found out more about the rest of your system.

You seem to be so caught up in what SqComp is doing with his system, you maybe neglected some of the more basic rules of "CAR AUDIO".

I am just offering friendly advice.
Do whatever makes you happy. Have fun with it.
You have questions, and people on this forum like to volunteer their knowledge and experience.

It's all good.

Hey! I'm here to listen and learn, this is not easy or cheap and many others could learn too.

I learn from my mistakes and I like to share my experiences with others and value every feed back; I enjoy so much this forum, and when friends like you take the time to read my stuff and feed back to me I appreciate every word.

I'm having fun and some times I get frustrated but it's a good frustration that takes the stress away from me.

You made a very good point about 3 Solos versus Bachuca, my lack of knowledge made me make a statement that made no sense.

Thanks Alien Mantis!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Alien Mantis

Oh bummer.

That is a really nice amp. It says it has a 2-year warranty. Have you had it for 2 years already? If it's still under warranty, you might need to send it in for a full check-up.

You are not going to believe me...

almost 11 years old

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[Alien Mantis]

11 years old? Wow. A classic.



I have a 16 year old Urban Audio Worx amp that still works, but you don't see me installing it in my Yaris!

The new technology is just so much better than it was years ago.
You can do a really nice system for a reasonable amount of money, if you just avoid those "boutique" products.
( as in: the stuff SqComp is using )

[sqcomp]

Boutique?

Hater

Seriously though, boutique would be using Thesis amps and Accuton drivers. I'm just on the lower rung of top-end. LRx amps are actually fairly affordable...if you work your angles correctly.

There's an M car in our shop right now that's using Mosconi and Sinfoni amps. I'd classify the latter as boutique way before my stuff.

[Alien Mantis]

YES, the stuff is "boutique"..... and NO I am not a "hater".

I love all that hi-end stuff.

I just can't afford it, nor would I spend that much money on a car audio system unless I won the lottery.

I was driving around in my little Yaris today, jamming my $500 stereo system, thinking how great it sounded and how happy I was.

That's what counts!

[sickpuppy1]

Now kids,play nice.LOL Gotta remember too though, SQcomp is building his system for just what his name implies, sound quality competitions, which is more to be a much more critical listener than just cruzing wit ma tunes kinda listening. Whats good enough for a casual listener, even one with better taste than normal,is not good enough to compete.

And your right alien, its what makes ya happy that counts. Its funny, I work with a guy that is a pretty good guitar player. He collects classic electric guitars and only uses tube amps and pre-amps because the SQ is so much better, and even then he prefers certain tubes because the Russian tubes sound better than the Chinese tubes, but still not as good as the Slovakian ones, but they are too pricey, etc. Now when it comes to listening to music on a cd or radio? he doesnt give a rats patooty if it's a McIntosh, Krell, Mark Levinson or a walmart boombox, its all the same to him. So yeah, whatever floats your boat,huh

[Alien Mantis]

Yeah, totally.

But AFAIK, Derick Veliz is NOT competing in audio SQ competitions.
And much of this thread is about his system.

I play guitar too. And all players are fussy about the "tone" they like.

For me: ENGL POWERBALL all the way!
( an amp that I do not own, but would like to someday.... )

[sqcomp]

Don't get the wrong impression...I'm just giving AM a ribbing. I COMPLETELY understand where we are. If I hadn't gone to Iraq, I'd be into some components that are a LOT less pricey. You can take that one to the bank.

You notice what source Derick is using...Someone want to call his stuff "boutique"? He he

[Alien Mantis]

Yeah, it's all in good fun.

SqComp knows what he's doing. I just like to pick on him sometimes.



Isn't Derick running one of them DEX-P99RS source units?
( basically, same as the Carrozeria )

It may be made by PIONEER.... but with a $1,349 MSRP.... that sucker is BOO-KOO BOUTIQUE!



( yes, I know, it is a really sweet head unit! )

[derickveliz2]

Me thinking!
I guess I need a new amp!

I did find what was causing the engine noise and it's one of the (RCA) channels of the 4x65 amp

Feels like there is some thing loose inside, if I hold it, and apply pressure the noise goes away, so I end up opening the amp and looking for something loose but every thing looks ok, I put it back together and put it back in the Yaris.

So there could be some thing wrong with my amp, I wonder if I can still use the 2x150 watts for one channel? and then I could add a 4th amp for the subwoofer(s) I recognize my amps are old, and AM is right, today's technology is way much better than 10 years ago.

more testing this week.

You guys are great! some times I really need my distractions! besides cutting the lawn

Thanks
D.

[derickveliz2]

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OK, I'm taking the 4x65 watts amp out and getting new one from www.sonicelectronix.com

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