Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade - Page 38 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Alien Mantis · 10-21-2010, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

AWESOME! photography AM I enjoyed every single photo!

Thanks.

I like your gallery from the model airplane event.
Those little R/C jets are cool. I used to fly R/C planes years ago, but I never made a ducted fan / jet.

I also like your demo video to show the sound deadened door panel.
Clever to use the garden hose! You can really hear a difference.

Good job.

derickveliz2 · 10-22-2010, 02:46 AM

OK,
I got my self some Resin and did some testing on the foam balls, one did kind of melt a little bit, we'll see how they look tomorrow.

This stuff smells funny!

sqcomp · 10-22-2010, 06:54 PM

the heat and chemicals will melt the foam. That's why you use something that won't be affected by chemicals and heat as much.

derickveliz2 · 10-24-2010, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

the heat and chemicals will melt the foam. That's why you use something that won't be affected by chemicals and heat as much.

Got it! the hard way jeje

derickveliz2 · 10-24-2010, 02:30 AM

So I end up using some water-based Polycrylic on the foam balls to prevent melting...

I did work once with resin and fiberglass about 20 years ago, I remember the smell (it was a little patch for a small speaker box I made).

I cut the fiberglass in 1" stripes, I mixed 2oz of resin with 20 drops of ???? I don't know what is the proper name in Spanish is "catalytic"? I'll read the bottle tomorrow and edit this post. Yeah it's MEKP!

The mix proportions was less than the instructions 1oz = 10 drops Instructions require 1oz=12 drops. I did this just to aloud me more time, they way I look at it is more drops... less time to work!

I applied a little bit of resin and a stripe of fiberglass at a time, until the ball was all covered, tomorrow I'll try to do the second one (green ball) then I'll start sanding and applying some bondo and then sand again. We'll see how it goes!

D.

sqcomp · 10-24-2010, 02:43 AM

build up the enclosure before adding bondo. Also remember, if you mix the resin too hot, it will become brittle.

derickveliz2 · 10-25-2010, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

build up the enclosure before adding bondo. Also remember, if you mix the resin too hot, it will become brittle.

Yes for sure! and that's a good tip for the MEKP describes me how it works.

Thanks

derickveliz2 · 10-26-2010, 04:37 PM

Did the green ball!!!

Much better than the first one, makes me think about doing a third ball, maybe after a dozen I'll get them pretty good! I'll post pictures later!

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-26-2010, 04:42 PM

OK guys, I'm finally getting a replacement for the Bachuka! it will be an Image Dynamics IDQ12 V3.D4

Now it's time to think about what kind of box! Sealed? Ported? Bandpass Box? even Free Air, this sub is so flexible!

Thanks to everybody help me narrow down my needs! many thanks to sqcomp, Palmer and others for your offerings and help, I appreciate it a lot "I'm very thankful" .

LINK

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-26-2010, 04:53 PM

Also for my Amp needs... I'm getting a PowerBass ASA1100.5x (5-Channel Class A/B Amplifier)

75 watts x 4 +250 x 1 LINK

This leaves me with 2 amps to choose from to help either the tweeters or Midbass
100 watts x 2 (old Pioneer amp that I'm using for the Bachuka now and could use it for the Midbass drivers?) or
60 watts x 2 new class A/B Pioneer amp (this could power the tweeters)

We'll see how it goes...

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-27-2010, 01:06 AM

Here is the other ball after applying fiber glass.
Now lets get the foam out and reinforce the MDF ring to the fiber glass sphere. I'm starting to like the funny smell!

And todays photo!

D.

sqcomp · 10-27-2010, 01:27 AM

Apparently you called the shop two minutes before I walked in this morning. Good choice on the sub and amp, you'll like them.

derickveliz2 · 10-27-2010, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Good choice on the sub and amp, you'll like them.

Thanks!
I'm very positive! I've been digging around and learning everyday, the sub and the amp will work great with my system, without breaking the bank.

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-27-2010, 02:29 AM

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A little bit of ACETONE to melt the foam, it was actually a sad moment...

After 5 or 10 minutes with the Dremel and a little sanding I did a test fit! Yeah!!! Can I use 5 minutes Epoxy to reinforce the spheres to the MDF ring? would the BONDO work ok over the Epoxy?

After some structural reinforcements to the spheres I should start looking for a mechanical system to attach the spheres to the A-Pillars

D.

packetrace · 10-27-2010, 12:40 PM

I have a couple of noob question for you guys....it would be really helpful for me....i'm going to start my audio system upgrade soon and i'll do a little bit of deadending in the trunk and on the floor....welll i will put two 12''subwoofer and i want to replace and amplify my two 6.5 and my two 6x9 and add little tweeter at the front in the a-pillar...

well what kind of amp do i need for the low(tweeter), the mid(6.5) and the high (6x9) ?

For the sub...Ported or not ?

For the deadending...only CLD tiles will make a difference in the trunk and on the floor even if i do not put MLV ?

Do i really need a audiocontrol like you are adding ?

Do i really need to change the battery ? or the big three will be enough ?

thanks to you and i'm sorry to disturb the tread but it's one of the most complete thread i found

thanks again!!!

derickveliz2 · 10-27-2010, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packetrace

I have a couple of noob question for you guys....it would be really helpful for me....i'm going to start my audio system upgrade soon and i'll do a little bit of deadending in the trunk and on the floor....welll i will put two 12''subwoofer and i want to replace and amplify my two 6.5 and my two 6x9 and add little tweeter at the front in the a-pillar...
thanks again!!!

Bold are mine!
well what kind of amp do i need for the low(tweeter), the mid(6.5) and the high (6x9) ? That depends on how much you want to spend $$$

For the sub...Ported or not ? Ported = bigger box!

For the deadending...only CLD tiles will make a difference in the trunk and on the floor even if i do not put MLV ? CLD tiles + CCFoam + MLV it's a system, you will feel a big difference only if you use all three of them.

Do i really need a audiocontrol like you are adding ? What is your goal and budget?

Do i really need to change the battery ? or the big three will be enough ? Depending on your equipment, so far mine is fine with the Big 3 only

thanks to you and i'm sorry to disturb the tread but it's one of the most complete thread i found Thank you and you are welcome

packetrace · 10-27-2010, 01:27 PM

I have maybe around 1000-1200$ for the audio system....but I already have my heat unit and my big three

My goal is to get a loud sytem with a lot of bass

I don't care of space I use in my trunk ...i'm a student so....i dont have a family....so ported or not ? for the best sub sound !

I would like to have a kind of 2500W peak of sub and have better sound by amplifying my tweeter, mid and high

so..

Audio control or 2 amps will do the job ?

Ported or not ?

Deadending question...thanks you so much

Battery...i'll change it if i see i have problem with power!

I like fast answer like you did Thank You

derickveliz2 · 10-27-2010, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packetrace

I have maybe around 1000-1200$ for the audio system....but I already have my heat unit and my big three
My goal is to get a loud sytem with a lot of bass
I don't care of space I use in my trunk ...i'm a student so....i dont have a family....so ported or not ? for the best sub sound !
I would like to have a kind of 2500W peak of sub and have better sound by amplifying my tweeter, mid and high
so..
Audio control or 2 amps will do the job ?
Ported or not ?
Deadending question...thanks you so much
Battery...i'll change it if i see i have problem with power!
I like fast answer like you did Thank You

BOLD CAPS ARE MINE!

I have maybe around 1000-1200$ for the audio system....but I already have my heat unit and my big three TELLS US ABOUT YOUR HU

My goal is to get a loud sytem with a lot of bass EVEN MY 10" BAZOOKA DELIVERS GREAT BASS, TWO 12'S WILL WORK GREAT TOO, TELL US ABOUT THEM?

I would like to have a kind of 2500W peak of sub and have better sound by amplifying my tweeter, mid and high RMS?

so..

Audio control or 2 amps will do the job ? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH AUDIO CONTROL?

Ported or not ? PORTED OR EVEN BETTER BANDPASS IF LOUD IS YOUR GOAL

Deadending question...thanks you so much WHAT QUESTION?

Battery...i'll change it if i see i have problem with power! IT'S NOT THE BATTERY YOU HAVE TO CHANGE, YOU CAN ADD A 2ND ONE AND UPGRADE ALTERNATOR.

10-22-2010, 06:54 PM	#669
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	the heat and chemicals will melt the foam. That's why you use something that won't be affected by chemicals and heat as much. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-24-2010, 02:30 AM	#671
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	So I end up using some water-based Polycrylic on the foam balls to prevent melting... I did work once with resin and fiberglass about 20 years ago, I remember the smell (it was a little patch for a small speaker box I made). I cut the fiberglass in 1" stripes, I mixed 2oz of resin with 20 drops of ???? I don't know what is the proper name in Spanish is "catalytic"? I'll read the bottle tomorrow and edit this post. Yeah it's MEKP! The mix proportions was less than the instructions 1oz = 10 drops Instructions require 1oz=12 drops. I did this just to aloud me more time, they way I look at it is more drops... less time to work! I applied a little bit of resin and a stripe of fiberglass at a time, until the ball was all covered, tomorrow I'll try to do the second one (green ball) then I'll start sanding and applying some bondo and then sand again. We'll see how it goes! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC Last edited by derickveliz2; 10-26-2010 at 04:34 PM. Reason: More information

10-24-2010, 02:43 AM	#672
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	build up the enclosure before adding bondo. Also remember, if you mix the resin too hot, it will become brittle. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-26-2010, 04:42 PM	#675
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK guys, I'm finally getting a replacement for the Bachuka! it will be an Image Dynamics IDQ12 V3.D4 Now it's time to think about what kind of box! Sealed? Ported? Bandpass Box? even Free Air, this sub is so flexible! Thanks to everybody help me narrow down my needs! many thanks to sqcomp, Palmer and others for your offerings and help, I appreciate it a lot "I'm very thankful" . LINK D. Last edited by derickveliz2; 10-26-2010 at 04:56 PM.

10-26-2010, 04:53 PM	#676
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Also for my Amp needs... I'm getting a PowerBass ASA1100.5x (5-Channel Class A/B Amplifier) 75 watts x 4 +250 x 1 LINK This leaves me with 2 amps to choose from to help either the tweeters or Midbass 100 watts x 2 (old Pioneer amp that I'm using for the Bachuka now and could use it for the Midbass drivers?) or 60 watts x 2 new class A/B Pioneer amp (this could power the tweeters) We'll see how it goes... D. Last edited by derickveliz2; 10-27-2010 at 02:44 AM.

10-22-2010, 02:46 AM	#668
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, I got my self some Resin and did some testing on the foam balls, one did kind of melt a little bit, we'll see how they look tomorrow. This stuff smells funny!

10-26-2010, 04:37 PM	#674
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Did the green ball!!! Much better than the first one, makes me think about doing a third ball, maybe after a dozen I'll get them pretty good! I'll post pictures later! D.

10-27-2010, 01:06 AM	#677
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Here is the other ball after applying fiber glass. Now lets get the foam out and reinforce the MDF ring to the fiber glass sphere. I'm starting to like the funny smell! And todays photo! D.

10-27-2010, 01:27 AM	#678
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Apparently you called the shop two minutes before I walked in this morning. Good choice on the sub and amp, you'll like them. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-27-2010, 02:29 AM	#680
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	. A little bit of ACETONE to melt the foam, it was actually a sad moment... After 5 or 10 minutes with the Dremel and a little sanding I did a test fit! Yeah!!! Can I use 5 minutes Epoxy to reinforce the spheres to the MDF ring? would the BONDO work ok over the Epoxy? After some structural reinforcements to the spheres I should start looking for a mechanical system to attach the spheres to the A-Pillars D.

10-27-2010, 12:40 PM	#681
packetrace Drives: Yaris Sedan 2009 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 566	I have a couple of noob question for you guys....it would be really helpful for me....i'm going to start my audio system upgrade soon and i'll do a little bit of deadending in the trunk and on the floor....welll i will put two 12''subwoofer and i want to replace and amplify my two 6.5 and my two 6x9 and add little tweeter at the front in the a-pillar... well what kind of amp do i need for the low(tweeter), the mid(6.5) and the high (6x9) ? For the sub...Ported or not ? For the deadending...only CLD tiles will make a difference in the trunk and on the floor even if i do not put MLV ? Do i really need a audiocontrol like you are adding ? Do i really need to change the battery ? or the big three will be enough ? thanks to you and i'm sorry to disturb the tread but it's one of the most complete thread i found thanks again!!! __________________ Interior:ALL red, black roof Exterior:RTX scorpion painted GOLD, side and rear visor, oem spoiler, MI mesh grill, Hella supertone horn, RS badge, Vios badge, CF pillar, Led mirror cover, fog light HID 3000k, Projector retrofit HID 8000K Performance :MI CrankPulley, Tein springs, UR and TRD bar, TURBO IN PROGRESS Audio : Pionner DEH-80PRS, HAT L1V2, PowerBass 1100.5X 5 channel amp

10-27-2010, 01:27 PM	#683
packetrace Drives: Yaris Sedan 2009 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 566	I have maybe around 1000-1200$ for the audio system....but I already have my heat unit and my big three My goal is to get a loud sytem with a lot of bass I don't care of space I use in my trunk ...i'm a student so....i dont have a family....so ported or not ? for the best sub sound ! I would like to have a kind of 2500W peak of sub and have better sound by amplifying my tweeter, mid and high so.. Audio control or 2 amps will do the job ? Ported or not ? Deadending question...thanks you so much Battery...i'll change it if i see i have problem with power! I like fast answer like you did Thank You __________________ Interior:ALL red, black roof Exterior:RTX scorpion painted GOLD, side and rear visor, oem spoiler, MI mesh grill, Hella supertone horn, RS badge, Vios badge, CF pillar, Led mirror cover, fog light HID 3000k, Projector retrofit HID 8000K Performance :MI CrankPulley, Tein springs, UR and TRD bar, TURBO IN PROGRESS Audio : Pionner DEH-80PRS, HAT L1V2, PowerBass 1100.5X 5 channel amp

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