Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade - Page 58 - Toyota Yaris Forums

derickveliz2 · 02-10-2011, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

If you're hearing distortion, you've either gone WAAAAY into clipping or you've got some nasty issues coming from the source.

No, I don't hear any distortion, what I mean is that I would never do that to a brand new speaker.

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-11-2011, 12:27 PM

I got the rings for the L6s... time to start building kick panels.

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-11-2011, 12:57 PM

Is it normal that when I crank up the volume the IDQ12 makes my hair tickles?

Yeah! I like that. The very interesting is that the car is not really shaking, I feel the bass in my body and at high volume in my hair too. Feels good!

Now it's very noticeable the lack of performance of the Lows (mid-bass Hifonics Zeus 6.5" drivers in the doors) at low levels they are OK, but I had to x-over them at 120Khz HPF other wise they just don't sound right.

For a few seconds I MUTE the Lows and is very interesting it just sounds beautiful. There is so much to learn about music, there are some music that the Sub it's just not playing and the Lows (mid-bass) are doing all the work.

Sqcomp, now it makes a lot of sense to put a couple of 6.5 woofers under the dash, maybe under the glove compartment? how is your project going?

D.

sqcomp · 02-11-2011, 08:28 PM

That mid bass performance is one of the reasons I like three ways over two way sets. I completely agree that two way sets are easier to set up that three ways. The issue for me is that I like to spread the power over more speakers to have the ability to tune more easily...to have more flexibility in shaping my sound.

D, I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to cross your L6's around 40 Hz at a 24 dB slope. Your enclosure will dictate the sound. We need to work together on that when you're ready.

There are some 6" woofers I have available. I'm not going to mess with them until 2012 though. I'll run this system for my first season in IASCA and then change it up almost completely. I'm already in the planning stages for an amp rack change and a woofer change. I'll probably run four 6" woofers in the dash using the same Audison 2.9 I'm pushing the 15" with. It's going to take a LOT of fiberglass ingenuity...

My project is at the point where I lay down the false floor. I've got approximately 5 layers of 1 1/2 oz mat down in the spare tire well. I've got it framed off. Now I place the floor, make the new trim ring, cut the floor, place the ring, fleece it off like I did with the mid bass enclosures...

There's more little tricks coming...to include concrete and copper BB's...

I've got to get this done by May.

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That mid bass performance is one of the reasons I like three ways over two way sets. I completely agree that two way sets are easier to set up that three ways. The issue for me is that I like to spread the power over more speakers to have the ability to tune more easily...to have more flexibility in shaping my sound.

I agree 100%

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D, I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to cross your L6's around 40 Hz at a 24 dB slope. Your enclosure will dictate the sound. We need to work together on that when you're ready.

Ok, so here is where we start with the L6s and Kick panels...

I got the rings now and I'm ready to figure out what's the best way to build the enclosure (kick panels)...

Check out the rings! the L6s fit perfectly:

And here is where one of them will go!

D.

sqcomp · 02-14-2011, 05:32 PM

Let me get some time today to get onto photobucket. That wiring bundle you have there on the left? In my case I relocated that (on both sides). That will open up the holes that will give the L6's proper "breathing" room to work down to 40hz and even lower in some cases.

I'll post a pic or two up to show you what I did.

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Let me get some time today to get onto photobucket. That wiring bundle you have there on the left? In my case I relocated that (on both sides). That will open up the holes that will give the L6's proper "breathing" room to work down to 40hz and even lower in some cases.

I'll post a pic or two up to show you what I did.

I did relocate the wiring bundle on both sides!

D.

sqcomp · 02-14-2011, 09:06 PM

It's in that cavity now that you should route the airflow from the back of kicks...

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

It's in that cavity now that you should route the airflow from the back of kicks...

Any suggestions for aiming the L6s?

D.

CAyaris · 02-15-2011, 01:58 AM

Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan

derickveliz2 · 02-15-2011, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAyaris

Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan

I stuck 1/4" CCFoam between the deck and the board trim. Once in a while I get a little rattle, to fix it I move the CCFoam around, and some times I put more. The foam gets smashed a little bit, letting the deck to vibrate.

What process did you use for deadening? did you apply Mat to the rear deck? CCFoam?

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-15-2011, 03:10 AM

I started the passenger's side, that lets me keep driving and I'll do the pilot's side on a weekend , pull out some MLV and CCFoam from that cavity, the L6s will be able to breath, Then on top of the carpet, MLV, CCFoam, Mat and CLD Tiles I started putting masking tape, 1 hour later and all my body hurts, it's like Yoga. Now I'm wondering if I should include the OEM carpet, the one that says "Yaris" other wise I'm going to have to cut it to make space for the kick panels...
I took pictures will upload later

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-15-2011, 02:07 PM

Experience builders... Kick panel building...

is it OK if I don't use FOIL on top of the carpet, before the tape?

D.

_S7V7N_ · 02-15-2011, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAyaris

Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan

Check out the Middle break light that sits on the Rear deck.

derickveliz2 · 02-17-2011, 01:59 AM

I think I'm going to put the OEM carpet with "Yaris" logo and tape on top, so I can get the carpet down there with out cutting it!

Here are the pictures of what I did a couple of nights ago...

D.

CAyaris · 02-17-2011, 02:54 AM

Looks good let me know how that works for you i have been looking into making custom fit enclosure like that in a wheel well or next to one

sqcomp · 02-17-2011, 03:17 AM

I kicked a response onto DIYMA

02-11-2011, 12:27 PM	#1028
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I got the rings for the L6s... time to start building kick panels. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-11-2011, 12:57 PM	#1029
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Is it normal that when I crank up the volume the IDQ12 makes my hair tickles? Yeah! I like that. The very interesting is that the car is not really shaking, I feel the bass in my body and at high volume in my hair too. Feels good! Now it's very noticeable the lack of performance of the Lows (mid-bass Hifonics Zeus 6.5" drivers in the doors) at low levels they are OK, but I had to x-over them at 120Khz HPF other wise they just don't sound right. For a few seconds I MUTE the Lows and is very interesting it just sounds beautiful. There is so much to learn about music, there are some music that the Sub it's just not playing and the Lows (mid-bass) are doing all the work. Sqcomp, now it makes a lot of sense to put a couple of 6.5 woofers under the dash, maybe under the glove compartment? how is your project going? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-11-2011, 08:28 PM	#1030
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	That mid bass performance is one of the reasons I like three ways over two way sets. I completely agree that two way sets are easier to set up that three ways. The issue for me is that I like to spread the power over more speakers to have the ability to tune more easily...to have more flexibility in shaping my sound. D, I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to cross your L6's around 40 Hz at a 24 dB slope. Your enclosure will dictate the sound. We need to work together on that when you're ready. There are some 6" woofers I have available. I'm not going to mess with them until 2012 though. I'll run this system for my first season in IASCA and then change it up almost completely. I'm already in the planning stages for an amp rack change and a woofer change. I'll probably run four 6" woofers in the dash using the same Audison 2.9 I'm pushing the 15" with. It's going to take a LOT of fiberglass ingenuity... My project is at the point where I lay down the false floor. I've got approximately 5 layers of 1 1/2 oz mat down in the spare tire well. I've got it framed off. Now I place the floor, make the new trim ring, cut the floor, place the ring, fleece it off like I did with the mid bass enclosures... There's more little tricks coming...to include concrete and copper BB's... I've got to get this done by May. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-14-2011, 05:32 PM	#1033
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Let me get some time today to get onto photobucket. That wiring bundle you have there on the left? In my case I relocated that (on both sides). That will open up the holes that will give the L6's proper "breathing" room to work down to 40hz and even lower in some cases. I'll post a pic or two up to show you what I did. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-14-2011, 09:06 PM	#1035
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	It's in that cavity now that you should route the airflow from the back of kicks... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-15-2011, 01:58 AM	#1037
CAyaris Drives: 2008 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Goodyear Posts: 209	Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan __________________ 108hp and still rolling

02-15-2011, 03:10 AM	#1039
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I started the passenger's side, that lets me keep driving and I'll do the pilot's side on a weekend , pull out some MLV and CCFoam from that cavity, the L6s will be able to breath, Then on top of the carpet, MLV, CCFoam, Mat and CLD Tiles I started putting masking tape, 1 hour later and all my body hurts, it's like Yoga. Now I'm wondering if I should include the OEM carpet, the one that says "Yaris" other wise I'm going to have to cut it to make space for the kick panels... I took pictures will upload later D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-15-2011, 02:07 PM	#1040
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Experience builders... Kick panel building... is it OK if I don't use FOIL on top of the carpet, before the tape? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-17-2011, 01:59 AM	#1042
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I think I'm going to put the OEM carpet with "Yaris" logo and tape on top, so I can get the carpet down there with out cutting it! Here are the pictures of what I did a couple of nights ago... D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-17-2011, 02:54 AM	#1043
CAyaris Drives: 2008 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Goodyear Posts: 209	Looks good let me know how that works for you i have been looking into making custom fit enclosure like that in a wheel well or next to one __________________ 108hp and still rolling

02-17-2011, 03:17 AM	#1044
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I kicked a response onto DIYMA __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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