Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

It's going to warm up a little bit here in next couple of days, I'll take advantage and work some fiberglass!

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[sqcomp]

Work it brother! Pics!

[derickveliz2]

Wow!

I think I hit the wall, 3:40 am and I made a mess. Working with glass making kickpanels it's very hard.

I'll show pictures of my frustration, I think I can make it work... we'll see!

D.

[sqcomp]

If you could see how big my smile is...

I have a hint for you that can make your panel fab a little easier.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

If you could see how big my smile is...

I have a hint for you that can make your panel fab a little easier.

I guess I need some advice!

D.

[sqcomp]

First, what was the most difficult part of the glass laydown?

[sickpuppy1]

Got my Lil sub in a .56 cu ft ported box....Nice balance of sound now, and with the fronts not doing anything under 100hz, they are livin better too. Gotta play with settings, but so far so good!
I bet that is a hard shape to lay freehand. Listen to SQ Derick. Maybe learn from his "experience"........

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

First, what was the most difficult part of the glass laydown?

OK, besides getting down there and doing some Yoga... the most difficult part was applying the resin on the upper section/vertical areas. The fleece just kept sticking everywhere out of place. I guess I need to be more aggressive and not to be afraid to work with more than 6 oz of resin at a time.


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[derickveliz2]

Here are the pictures of the kick panels in wanna be kick panels...










Get set GO!







This morning every thing looked ok, very stiff and rock solid, I don't know if I should pull them out and keep adding layers or do another layer down there?

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[sqcomp]

Eeek...it's just me, I wouldn't lay day down fleece as a bottom layer. Butnow that I know you did, we can work with making that fleece straight. Do what you can to make the substrate as flat as possible for a few more layers. I use fleece to wrap the top of the enclosure.

Show me pics of how you lay down glass matting. I may have some suggestions.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Show me pics of how you lay down glass matting. I may have some suggestions.

Well, the first batch was kind of random, just trying to cover the fleece at least once or twice in some areas, My intention was to place them at 90 degrees overlapping with each other starting from top to bottom, but didn't happen.

It got cold again, Brrrr


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[sqcomp]

The issue starts here. We need to keep the substrate flat to get the closest fit to the panel. If the base isn't flat it is VERY difficult to get a build up with all those waves that we see. Also, it's probably better to use chop mat versus glass weave in that area. Chop mat is great for build up, which is what you're trying to do.

[derickveliz2]

I did a second layer, now I'm going to try to pull it out, trim and reinforce it.

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

We need to keep the substrate flat to get the closest fit to the panel. If the base isn't flat it is VERY difficult to get a build up with all those waves that we see. Also, it's probably better to use chop mat versus glass weave in that area. Chop mat is great for build up, which is what you're trying to do.

It wasn't easy to pull that thing out!

The waves kind of filled in and made a flat surface in the back, the second layer filled in the uneven areas on top, I just added another layer, it's very heavy and solid, I'm going to add another layer or 2 then trim out and glue in the ring for the speaker, any suggestion for aiming the L6s? my feeling is 30-45 degrees at the stick???

This is not easy, I guess after doing it half a dozen times, it gets better!



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[sqcomp]

It does get better.

Suggestions? Yes, aim the mids to the stick and up about a foot.

Oh, Jim got your e-mail about the rings. Nice pic you used! :) I'd actually suggest using a 1/4" flush instead of a 3/4" flush ring. It'll make it blend better.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

It does get better.

Suggestions? Yes, aim the mids to the stick and up about a foot.

Oh, Jim got your e-mail about the rings. Nice pic you used! :) I'd actually suggest using a 1/4" flush instead of a 3/4" flush ring. It'll make it blend better.

A foot above the floor or the stick? I guess the floor.

about the picture (I stole one of your pictures, just in case the name of the files is "Ring Sqcomp" jeje)... I have to make sure I get what I'm looking for. And yes 1/4" would be good.

Thanks


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[sqcomp]

You're going to aim the mid bass a foot above the stick shift. You can also aim them into the center of the dash (or anywhere in between) aimed up to that level a foot above the stick shift. Simply due to the size of the driver, I'm thinking that the magnet would be better nestled into the corner aiming to the stick shift.

You have to remember that bass frequencies are less directional than the mid range and the tweeter.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

You're going to aim the mid bass a foot above the stick shift. You can also aim them into the center of the dash (or anywhere in between) aimed up to that level a foot above the stick shift. Simply due to the size of the driver, I'm thinking that the magnet would be better nestled into the corner aiming to the stick shift.

You have to remember that bass frequencies are less directional than the mid range and the tweeter.

Thanks,

So it's more of a convenience/ergonomics, in other words... for the Pilot's side to keep it away from the clutch!

I better aim the Pilot's side first and try to do it symmetrical.

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