Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I'm sayin'! I'm trying to take things to the next level as it were.

If there is some one out there that can do it that's YOU!

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Gotta be in the Canadian IASCA finals in Calgary.

I have CES and SBN to go to next year too. Wanna come with me D?

I would love to!

I'm still looking for a real job, we'll see how it goes this year, spring is here, warmer weather it's around the corner!

Lets hope!


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[sqcomp]

Well, when you figure things out, I can arrange for you to get into CES.

I think you might enjoy it...a little...

[sqcomp]

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Two things to look at:



^The trim panel for the secondary battery and distro area. Next week, I'll put some plexi on it so we can actually see what we're looking at!



^A neat award from Scott! Apparently he thinks I'm an integral part of Team Hybrids! Sweet!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

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^A neat award from Scott! Apparently he thinks I'm an integral part of Team Hybrids! Sweet!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!




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[derickveliz2]

Where can I get this type of wire, for my speakers?


© Sqcomp

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[sickpuppy1]

Looks similar to this, http://cgi.ebay.com/Monster-Cable-30...item43a5fe2e7a
But if you search, you can better prices.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MONSTER-CABLE-XL...item5198a3be42
Looks like the ends were heat shrinked, which is a good idea for moisture and air oxidation.

[sickpuppy1]

His looks to have a braiding in the outer sheath coating, so I assume its not what I linked to. Not sure if thats a strength thing or additional sheilding. Looks like fiber, so I think its for strength .

[sqcomp]

Yeah...

You can make it. It's the "Patriot" techflex. That run is on my L4SE wire. My L1ProSE wire is the "Superhero", my L8SE wiring is "Ogre", and the woofer flex is "Carbon".

http://www.techflex.com/prod_PET.asp

It's just a sheathing that goes over the already shielded triple shielded Streetwires 12g speaker wire. The heat shrink has changed a little to mark the positive quick release with red heat shrink.

...This my friends, is called install points on the IASCA scorecard.

Where do I get it? Furryletters on Ebay. He's a cool cat.

[sqcomp]

More panel work today on that distribution panel I've been toying with. It's getting close. I'll say next week it could be done.

By next week I'll have the L8SE's in my hands. I throw you some teasers...

We're also planning to re-work the amp rack to accommodate the new Audison Voce amps. They look sexy! They have the same body style as the Thesis amps...along with the digital AD link that I'll be using from my Bit One.

[derickveliz2]

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L8SE's, Voce amps, Bit One... = speech less waiting for pictures!



Well today I took off the sphere of the MIDS, and started playing with aiming again, now that I now what I'm looking for, and having the right songs (tracks) it's much easier!
Now I understand why "off-axis" and Time Alignment play a big role together.

I got rid of the noise coming from my PB amp... well sort of... I unplugged the RCA with the sub-woofer signal to the amp and the noise goes away, I added a 3rd amp just for the subwoofer and no noise at all.

I'm afraid that my PB amp has some issues.

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[sqcomp]

You should notice that aiming in on the mids should give some great imaging.

Also, if you're sure that the noise I'd from the amp and not a cable attached to the amplifier, let's get it back to the shop so we can warranty it and get you a new one.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

You should notice that aiming in on the mids should give some great imaging.

Also, if you're sure that the noise I'd from the amp and not a cable attached to the amplifier, let's get it back to the shop so we can warranty it and get you a new one.

It's amazing... I can't believe how acoustics works! you got to try it out to feel each scenario. specially with tracks like the 7 drums, the left center right voices, etc. There is one song I have with Marimba playing, and sounds like if the Marimba is right in front of me and I can see/feel every time they hit each note and goes left, right back and forth, very cool.

Now I need to learn/understand more about Time Alignment, why there are 2 numbers, kind of the distance of each driver to the listener, but is that physically a number or by ear?

Let me try one more time before sending back the amp, I'm going to change all power wires next week. For now I'm pretty sure it's not the cable (RCA) [or I have 5 bad RCA cables].

Any news on the I6SW?

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[sqcomp]

We received the I6SW yesterday. Remind me what Jim has going on with it?

What specifically did you want to know about the time alignment section of the deck? If we were to stick with the two choices you listed, to tune it by the numbers or to tune it by ear...

by ear ALL the way. With that being said, our T/A section is by measurement. I don't recall with the P-99's measurement units are. I know mine are in Centimeters.

There are WAAAY too many factors going on in a car's interior to simply plug in a mathematical equation then set it and forget it. It'd take several advanced algorithms and a big processor...which neither of us have (although I'm close with the JK Labs guys who did Scott's processor).

Still, at our level, your ears are what you're impressing. Time alignment will vary with the crossover as well. Let's start basically. The pre-programmed left side tune in that deck is pretty good.

What do you think of it's sound in relevance to proper staging?

...speaking of, do you have a good reference staging track where you know POSITIVELY where all instruments are?

[derickveliz2]

We received the I6SW yesterday. Remind me what Jim has going on with it?

Just the woofer, I'm working on the rings as we speak!

What specifically did you want to know about the time alignment section of the deck? If we were to stick with the two choices you listed, to tune it by the numbers or to tune it by ear...

I understand the deck TA very good, it's how you proceed, it's like having left and right, but it doesn't work like that (correct me if I'm wrong, please) do you mute one side and do one side at a time? or just move up and down the numbers? I put the Technical Track Left, Center, Right Narratives and start moving the numbers up and down (only for the MIDs) I start with physical dimensions.

by ear ALL the way. With that being said, our T/A section is by measurement. I don't recall with the P-99's measurement units are. I know mine are in Centimeters.

P-99 measurements are in Centimeters or Inches.


Still, at our level, your ears are what you're impressing. Time alignment will vary with the crossover as well. Let's start basically. The pre-programmed left side tune in that deck is pretty good.

My x-over for mids are 160Hz-10kHz

What do you think of it's sound in relevance to proper staging? I don't understand this question, sorry could you expand please

...speaking of, do you have a good reference staging track where you know POSITIVELY where all instruments are?

No I don't



This is how the track Imaging #4 Technical Track Seven Drum Beats images now...






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[sqcomp]

That's a good start. what does the stage do when you move the mids aimed up to the rear view mirror?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That's a good start. what does the stage do when you move the mids aimed up to the rear view mirror?

Much better, the 7 drums are almost at eye level.

I'll do a little bit of more listening and report back.

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That's a good start. what does the stage do when you move the mids aimed up to the rear view mirror?

And just a bit forward of the rear view mirror, kind of following the line of the windshield aimed above the speedometer cluster works nice too.

I "MUTE" the tweeters for now and pump up the Mids to 20kHz (tweeter less) works pretty good.

Having the Mids with no enclosure (sort of speak IB drivers) it's missing a big chunk of music.

What else should I be looking for so far I tried these tracks:

Seven Drum Beats 1 2 3 4 5 67

Front_End_Alignment 1 2 3 4

Left, Center, Right Narratives 1 22 3

*been the number each position and the space between them, got it?




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[derickveliz2]

and of course... a picture!



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