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sqcomp · 06-22-2011, 12:34 PM

The easy thing about it is, anything that is done can be put back to stock.

I've got spare panels and carpeting if I want to put it back to stock. Anything I've done can be brought back to stock within 24 hours.

It's that easy.

I will agree with you though. A lot of people expect more than realistically will happen from the car. I don't want to sell the car anyway. I love having the OMGawd reaction when people see what I'm doing with the system.

D - I just ordered a 320 Amp DC Power Alternator for the little Yaris. Each of the S2b's ask for a 200 Amp fuse. I won't be pulling that much however, playing everything at 4 Ohms. RAAWWRR!

https://www.dcpowerinc.com/fit/2007~...03-320-hp.html

derickveliz2 · 06-22-2011, 01:58 PM

Most of the time girls think a Yaris is "Cute" I think it's a great car to play with... I'm not referring on T's comment by the way.

Good fuel economy
Not very expensive
Ok, looks "cute" but I took care of that with accessories.
Easy to DIY everything from oil change to removing panels and seats. I do everything on my cars, no body touches them, from dealers, car audio shop, car wash, etc.
Really good platform for SQ (Sound Quality) system, center instrument cluster and geometry of dashboard ideal for "Front Stage" set up.

"but what if you want to sell the car?" Will I sell it? I don't think so. Maybe in 10 years from now LoL

SQ... that's an awesome 320 amp. AND yes I think in 24 hours and a couple of panels brings the inside to stock, now springs will need another day, jeje

FN... what does HISUI RYU means? is it some kind of Art? Do you have Turbo?

CUTE?............................................. .................................................. .........................NICE!!!

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-22-2011, 03:10 PM

For our journal...I've been driving without a-pillars (MIDS & Tweets), so I plugged the tweeters and put them in the cup holders in an "off axis position"... so in a 2 way front stage:

Tweeters:
HP 4 kHz with 24 db slope. LP 20 kHz

Mid bass:
HP 63 Hz with 24 db slope. LP 4 kHz with 24 db slope

Subwoofer:
HP 20 Hz - LP 40 Hz (can't remember the slope).

Even like that sounds pretty dam good! the stage is right on the HU's screen not as high/forward compare to a 3 way front stage, but still pretty good. I do miss the MIDS and see the need. The width it's a little narrower, not as wide but I could live with it. (o:

D.

sqcomp · 06-22-2011, 04:33 PM

Yeah...that midrange seems to be anemic in a lot of the two way setups I've heard.

I have never been happy with the sound of the two way setups I've tried. I've always leaned towards three way setups simply for the control.

derickveliz2 · 06-23-2011, 01:07 AM

The way I see it is that the Tweeters take half of the vocals, and 6.5" speakers take the other half leaving a big gap in between, well sort of!

D.

sqcomp · 06-23-2011, 12:38 PM

Yes...exactly...there's a response gap. You can hear that when listening to a sound board in a shop running two way setups.

There's sacrifice when we split the vocal range at 2500 Hz (for example) between a mid woofer and a tweeter that doesn't do the entire mid range effectively.

For example, when you have a mid woofer that is reproducing a handful of sounds at different points of the frequency range...when you're at the top end trying to reproduce the vocals with a heavier mid bass beat? The mid range can become muddled and less accurate especially at higher linearity levels.

VERSUS

Using a dedicated mid range speaker, in the mid range frequency the we hear most accurately, is more desirable from the standpoint of sound reproduction accuracy. Work smarter, not harder.

_S7V7N_ · 06-23-2011, 08:06 PM

I'm running around with no Driver door panel till i get in my replacement 6.5's, (Hopefully they're the late Father's Day gift that the g/f says is in the mail )...My g/f keeps lookin at my door panel sitting by the front door wondering when i'm gonna put it back in ..Loll

fnkngrv · 06-23-2011, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

FN... what does HISUI RYU means? is it some kind of Art? Do you have Turbo?

It means Jade Dragon in Kanji.

Yes I am boosted.

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _S7V7N_

.My g/f keeps lookin at my door panel sitting by the front door wondering when i'm gonna put it back in ..Loll

I've been there before! LoL

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

It means Jade Dragon in Kanji.

Yes I am boosted.

Cool, this is one of my favorite airplanes, not a glider any how, it's like the best of the best a few years ago (Caleb F5B Multitask), reaching speeds of 150+ MPH and climb straight up at 90 degrees at 75 MPH...

on it' swing I was told had 3 symbols that sounded like my name in Chinese, the last one phonetically was RYU and I think it was "elegant" or some thing like that, just called my attention... and remind me my other hobby! LOL

Boosted... DOUBLE COOL!

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 02:31 AM

Sanding and more sanding!

what a life!
but happy!
BTW I think I'm going to need a new amp (2 channel) 150-300 watts, any suggestions?

D.

sqcomp · 06-24-2011, 12:47 PM

What speakers are you using the amp for?

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

What speakers are you using the amp for?

L6

D.

_S7V7N_ · 06-24-2011, 06:24 PM

I just got some Autotek's 6.5CX's to replace the Hifonics 6.5's..See what they sound like..Same company, so we'll see.

sqcomp · 06-24-2011, 06:54 PM

Derick! Where were you when I was selling my LRx 2.9's?!? One of those would be great for the L6's.

I'd try to find one of those used, an Arc KS or SE amp, maybe an ID Q amplifier...

You want mento talk to Jim? We may have a closeout deal for you on ID.

EDIT:

Just talked to Jim on the phone. He has a couple amps for you that I believe he's closing out that you might be able to use. Drop him an e-mail.

derickveliz2 · 06-25-2011, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _S7V7N_

I just got some Autotek's 6.5CX's to replace the Hifonics 6.5's..See what they sound like..Same company, so we'll see.

Cool! but why? what are you going to do with the passive X-over? isn't these new speakers a 2 way and not a component like the Hifonics?

I'm about to swap mine (Hifonics 6.5) for HAT L6s I'm not hoping for any big gain at the beginning, every thing shines after a break in period.

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-25-2011, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Derick! Where were you when I was selling my LRx 2.9's?!? One of those would be great for the L6's.

I'd try to find one of those used, an Arc KS or SE amp, maybe an ID Q amplifier...

You want mento talk to Jim? We may have a closeout deal for you on ID.

EDIT:

Just talked to Jim on the phone. He has a couple amps for you that I believe he's closing out that you might be able to use. Drop him an e-mail.

I guess I was dealing with the electric noise and suspecting the PowerBass amp was going back to the factory for repairs (resolved problem by moving the RCA cables from the left side of the HU to the right).

Too bad I missed your LRx 2.9's now I know the need of Power on the lower end.

We'll find something. (o:

D.

_S7V7N_ · 06-25-2011, 10:51 PM

Hmm i may need some help on if i can use the crossovers, i thought as long as these speakers are the same impedance (4ohms) and the frequencies are similar (off by 10 kHz) i could use them on the crossover ?

Hifonics 6.5 - 60 Hz - 30 kHz
Autotek's - 60 Hz - 20 kHz

Ohh and my Hifonics 6.5's started to act up, so i got these to try out.

06-22-2011, 12:34 PM	#1315
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The easy thing about it is, anything that is done can be put back to stock. I've got spare panels and carpeting if I want to put it back to stock. Anything I've done can be brought back to stock within 24 hours. It's that easy. I will agree with you though. A lot of people expect more than realistically will happen from the car. I don't want to sell the car anyway. I love having the OMGawd reaction when people see what I'm doing with the system. D - I just ordered a 320 Amp DC Power Alternator for the little Yaris. Each of the S2b's ask for a 200 Amp fuse. I won't be pulling that much however, playing everything at 4 Ohms. RAAWWRR! https://www.dcpowerinc.com/fit/2007~...03-320-hp.html __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-22-2011, 01:58 PM	#1316
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Most of the time girls think a Yaris is "Cute" I think it's a great car to play with... I'm not referring on T's comment by the way. Good fuel economy Not very expensive Ok, looks "cute" but I took care of that with accessories. Easy to DIY everything from oil change to removing panels and seats. I do everything on my cars, no body touches them, from dealers, car audio shop, car wash, etc. Really good platform for SQ (Sound Quality) system, center instrument cluster and geometry of dashboard ideal for "Front Stage" set up. "but what if you want to sell the car?" Will I sell it? I don't think so. Maybe in 10 years from now LoL SQ... that's an awesome 320 amp. AND yes I think in 24 hours and a couple of panels brings the inside to stock, now springs will need another day, jeje FN... what does HISUI RYU means? is it some kind of Art? Do you have Turbo? CUTE?............................................. .................................................. .........................NICE!!! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-22-2011, 03:10 PM	#1317
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	For our journal...I've been driving without a-pillars (MIDS & Tweets), so I plugged the tweeters and put them in the cup holders in an "off axis position"... so in a 2 way front stage: Tweeters: HP 4 kHz with 24 db slope. LP 20 kHz Mid bass: HP 63 Hz with 24 db slope. LP 4 kHz with 24 db slope Subwoofer: HP 20 Hz - LP 40 Hz (can't remember the slope). Even like that sounds pretty dam good! the stage is right on the HU's screen not as high/forward compare to a 3 way front stage, but still pretty good. I do miss the MIDS and see the need. The width it's a little narrower, not as wide but I could live with it. (o: D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-22-2011, 04:33 PM	#1318
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yeah...that midrange seems to be anemic in a lot of the two way setups I've heard. I have never been happy with the sound of the two way setups I've tried. I've always leaned towards three way setups simply for the control. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-23-2011, 01:07 AM	#1319
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	The way I see it is that the Tweeters take half of the vocals, and 6.5" speakers take the other half leaving a big gap in between, well sort of! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-23-2011, 12:38 PM	#1320
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yes...exactly...there's a response gap. You can hear that when listening to a sound board in a shop running two way setups. There's sacrifice when we split the vocal range at 2500 Hz (for example) between a mid woofer and a tweeter that doesn't do the entire mid range effectively. For example, when you have a mid woofer that is reproducing a handful of sounds at different points of the frequency range...when you're at the top end trying to reproduce the vocals with a heavier mid bass beat? The mid range can become muddled and less accurate especially at higher linearity levels. VERSUS Using a dedicated mid range speaker, in the mid range frequency the we hear most accurately, is more desirable from the standpoint of sound reproduction accuracy. Work smarter, not harder. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-23-2011, 08:06 PM	#1321
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	I'm running around with no Driver door panel till i get in my replacement 6.5's, (Hopefully they're the late Father's Day gift that the g/f says is in the mail )...My g/f keeps lookin at my door panel sitting by the front door wondering when i'm gonna put it back in ..Loll __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

06-24-2011, 02:31 AM	#1325
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Sanding and more sanding! what a life! but happy! BTW I think I'm going to need a new amp (2 channel) 150-300 watts, any suggestions? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-24-2011, 12:47 PM	#1326
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	What speakers are you using the amp for? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-24-2011, 06:24 PM	#1328
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	I just got some Autotek's 6.5CX's to replace the Hifonics 6.5's..See what they sound like..Same company, so we'll see. __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

06-24-2011, 06:54 PM	#1329
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Derick! Where were you when I was selling my LRx 2.9's?!? One of those would be great for the L6's. I'd try to find one of those used, an Arc KS or SE amp, maybe an ID Q amplifier... You want mento talk to Jim? We may have a closeout deal for you on ID. EDIT: Just talked to Jim on the phone. He has a couple amps for you that I believe he's closing out that you might be able to use. Drop him an e-mail. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 06-24-2011 at 08:21 PM.

06-25-2011, 10:51 PM	#1332
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Hmm i may need some help on if i can use the crossovers, i thought as long as these speakers are the same impedance (4ohms) and the frequencies are similar (off by 10 kHz) i could use them on the crossover ? Hifonics 6.5 - 60 Hz - 30 kHz Autotek's - 60 Hz - 20 kHz Ohh and my Hifonics 6.5's started to act up, so i got these to try out. __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

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