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08-06-2013, 10:44 AM | #1 |
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Check Engine Light on at 32k kilometers?
Just at the title says. check Engine Light came on with 32,500 kilometers on my 2010. That's right. Very low km's, with engine light on. I had the dealer switch the oil to the upgraded synthetic (blend?) from the very first oil change. I use Lucas gas treatment occasionally. Right now my only reliable car is my 81 Z-28... My 2000 Xterra is on its 3rd major visit to the mechanic in under a year as we speak. Of course I don't want to visit the dealership which is 1/2 hr away, and spend god-knows-how-much on computer scanners, etc... That stuff should be free while it is under warranty...
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08-06-2013, 10:47 AM | #2 |
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You need to have someone read the code, as there are hundreds of reasons why it could come on (from as benign as loose gas cap). Most auto parts stores will read codes for no charge.
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10-11-2013, 10:00 AM | #3 |
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#1 and #4 cylinder misfire, and a corresponding 'random' misfire code.
wtf? Code is cleared for a couple days now, but I noticed my mileage went to pot about 9 months after I bought the car (which corresponded to fall/winter in Canada). Need to get an oil change soon so I will talk to the dealship and see what they say about it. Hate paying for detailed diagnostics when I have an extended warranty which should cover that sort of crap. |
10-11-2013, 12:09 PM | #4 | |
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10-11-2013, 10:16 AM | #5 |
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That's an American luxury. Very hard pressed in Canada to find someone who will not soak you for an easy $100 to plug in a code reader.
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10-11-2013, 02:47 PM | #6 | |
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just my 2 cents on this ....at least we will get it right the first time not like ur average shop. |
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10-11-2013, 03:17 PM | #7 | |
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Most can only read the ECM.. Any of the other computers on the car (power steering, body, A/C, etc.) takes the techstream or some other sophisticated, expensive head tool which some shops have, and some do not. My 2 cents.. |
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10-11-2013, 04:05 PM | #8 | |
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I can't tell you how many times a Canadian on this site has posted concerning check engine light, and they will almost always get a 'most auto parts (ie. AutoZone) will scan for free' response. We don't have AutoZone here with the closest comparable being PartsSource and NAPA. Both these operations do not extend this service under the hope that you will buy your parts from them. The closest we do get is the periodic special run by some shops who will wave the diagnostic fee if you have them perform the necessary repairs. Otherwise, it is pay for the read + parts + labour. I'm not dumping here, just pointing out that the free diagnostic from your local parts store is not an applicable response for us.
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10-14-2013, 01:57 PM | #9 | |
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When you get a brake job, do they charge you "diagnostic fees" of $30 to tell you that you need new brakes? No. We pay mechanics to find the problem and fix it. Just because they want to use a computer at MY expense, doesn't sit right with me. |
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10-15-2013, 02:34 PM | #10 | |
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In the end, it saves me a lot. I had changed the air filters in less than half a minute, changing oil and its filter were done in less than an hour. ~20€ or so for the 3 filters, 50 for a canister of oil that's still got about 2l in it, that's totally okay for me to spend that every second or third year. Paying the workshop 100€ in addition (some rumors said even 200€) isn't at all. I lose the rust warranty, but if it rusts too bad in about 10 years or so, the saved money will be by far enough to fix it |
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10-11-2013, 12:03 PM | #11 |
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car is still under warranty.. no?
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10-14-2013, 01:53 PM | #12 |
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Yes. Bought the extended warranty to 5 years
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10-14-2013, 02:20 PM | #13 |
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if you got a smart phone you can get a code reader for under $25.. elm327 bluetooth or wifi.. works flawlessly...
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10-15-2013, 12:21 PM | #14 |
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I had the codes read with OBD II. It was misfire on 2 & 4, and random misfire codes. Wondering what I should do now.
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10-15-2013, 12:45 PM | #15 |
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I think CTScott already gave a suggestion
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10-15-2013, 01:29 PM | #16 |
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Clear the codes. Swap the coils from 2 & 4 with 1 & 3. If the coils are bad, then the next cel should indicate misfire on 1 & 3. If it is still 2 & 4, then spark plugs are next to look at.
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10-16-2013, 12:27 PM | #17 | |
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I read somewhere there has to be a certain number of misfires before the CEL lights up? |
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