McLaren Mercedes fined $100 Million! - Toyota Yaris Forums

Slummy · 09-14-2007, 09:47 AM

If any one here follows F1 then you are probably familiar with the spy scandal between McLaren Mercedes and Ferrari.

If your not here it is...basically, McLaren Mercedes had in its possession "sensitive technical data" from Ferrari.
Well, this made it way in front of the World Motor Sport Council yesterday.

Here's what they decided for punishment:http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/...-championship/

What do you guys and gals think? Too much, Too little?

nqd · 09-14-2007, 10:12 AM

thats kinda harsh...compared to the patriots getting fined 500k for kinda doing the same thing

static808 · 09-15-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nqd

thats kinda harsh...compared to the patriots getting fined 500k for kinda doing the same thing

no comparison. its not stealing defensive signals, what mclaren did was steal the whole damn playbook. its a shame too, cuz the race between alonso and hamilton was real good this year. now this news takes up all the headlines...

--B

WRBlue · 09-15-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nqd

thats kinda harsh...compared to the patriots getting fined 500k for kinda doing the same thing

Except that the Super Bowl winner doesn't make BILLIONS for winning the super bowl like the constructor's champion does...

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I think the fine gets reduced by the amount that would have been earned in the Constructors Championship. So the fine will end up being something like $50 mil.

Last time I read anything about it - cause it usually isn't published, the constructor's champion purse is about $2 billion US. And McLaren all but had it locked up. McLaren's racing budget this year was $402 million.

YANGSTER · 09-14-2007, 10:17 AM

I'm sure they can afford $100M.
It was them who took the gamble and they were fully aware of the consequences.
Too bad they got caught this time.

Cant wait to see how they are gonna perform next season.

Slummy · 09-14-2007, 10:20 AM

I think the fine gets reduced by the amount that would have been earned in the Constructors Championship. So the fine will end up being something like $50 mil.

redyaris · 09-14-2007, 11:11 AM

If you can't beat em, spy on em.

I've never seen an F1 team so loaded with talent, funding, and technical know-how that accomplishes so little (same goes for Toyota team also).

YamilR · 09-14-2007, 11:48 AM

F1 is the second money making sport in the world, their anual budget for tv rights is 1 billion so when you deal with that kind of cash 100 million is nothing

Slummy · 09-14-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by YamilR

F1 is the second money making sport in the world, their anual budget for tv rights is 1 billion so when you deal with that kind of cash 100 million is nothing

The other part of it is the loss of all their Constructors points. So even if they can make it rain w/ thousand dollar bills, next year they are @ the end of the pit lane, have smaller garages, and not as much space for their Trailer/Office.

acdaazn · 09-18-2007, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Slummy

The other part of it is the loss of all their Constructors points. So even if they can make it rain w/ thousand dollar bills, next year they are @ the end of the pit lane, have smaller garages, and not as much space for their Trailer/Office.

Uh.... No.... The Pits are determined by the number of the cars. If either Alonso or Hamilton wins the WC, then they would have car #1 and #2.

aca72 · 09-14-2007, 05:42 PM

Mclaren: If you can't win on track, win it with spies.
Ferrari: If you can't win on track, win it in court.

Current Standings before Belgian GP (09/16)
01 FERRARI 143
02 BMW SAUBER 86
03 RENAULT 38
04 WILLIAMS 25
05 RED BULL 16
06 TOYOTA 12
07 SUPER AGURI 4
08 HONDA 2
Toro Rosso 0
Spyker MF1 0
McLaren 0 (was 166) OUCH!

kurokoma-kun · 09-14-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aca72

Mclaren: If you can't win on track, win it with spies.
Ferrari: If you can't win on track, win it in court.

take that bitches!

At least the McLaren drivers have not been blamed--they made such a big deal about some emails of Alonso's--so it looks like they get to keep their points.

All I know is, no US GP next year = suck

Ferret_san · 09-16-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Slummy

..., McLaren Mercedes had in its possession "sensitive technical data" from Ferrari....

No...No...No...Silly... That was the old McLaren... Updated model below.

Slummy · 09-16-2007, 03:33 PM

HaHa....I didnt even notice the new "modification" at first!

09-14-2007, 11:11 AM	#7
redyaris Shiny Chromey Coolness View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 982	If you can't beat em, spy on em. I've never seen an F1 team so loaded with talent, funding, and technical know-how that accomplishes so little (same goes for Toyota team also). __________________ Bringin the Bling to Yarisworld

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aca72 Drives: '07 Yaris S Sedan M5 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 208	Mclaren: If you can't win on track, win it with spies. Ferrari: If you can't win on track, win it in court. Current Standings before Belgian GP (09/16) 01 FERRARI 143 02 BMW SAUBER 86 03 RENAULT 38 04 WILLIAMS 25 05 RED BULL 16 06 TOYOTA 12 07 SUPER AGURI 4 08 HONDA 2 Toro Rosso 0 Spyker MF1 0 McLaren 0 (was 166) OUCH! __________________

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09-14-2007, 10:12 AM	#2
nqd Drives: 07 Yaris LB Absolute RED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 884	thats kinda harsh...compared to the patriots getting fined 500k for kinda doing the same thing __________________ v

09-14-2007, 10:17 AM	#5
YANGSTER Drives: SILVER YARIS 2007 5DR Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kitchener, ON, CANADA Posts: 126	I'm sure they can afford $100M. It was them who took the gamble and they were fully aware of the consequences. Too bad they got caught this time. Cant wait to see how they are gonna perform next season.

09-14-2007, 10:20 AM	#6
Slummy View User's Garage Drives: Black LB Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: D.C. Posts: 249	I think the fine gets reduced by the amount that would have been earned in the Constructors Championship. So the fine will end up being something like $50 mil.

09-14-2007, 11:48 AM	#8
YamilR View User's Garage Drives: Absolutely Red Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 570	F1 is the second money making sport in the world, their anual budget for tv rights is 1 billion so when you deal with that kind of cash 100 million is nothing

09-16-2007, 03:33 PM	#14
Slummy View User's Garage Drives: Black LB Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: D.C. Posts: 249	HaHa....I didnt even notice the new "modification" at first!