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11-20-2008, 06:16 PM | #1 |
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Love my Yaris...
I suppose anyone can claim anything on these forums, but the following it true.
I own/have owned several "nice cars," including the 2009 Corvette I bought two months ago (see below). Before that I owned a 2007 Acura TL Type S. I've also owned three Accords, a Taurus SHO and two 5.0 Mustangs - all purchased new. This is the fourth "low buck" Toyota vehicles I've owned and it ranks near the very top of my "favorites" list. I got the base 2 door hatch 5 speed manual with the convenience package and all weather guard package ("Option Group D" in this area). I had the dealer install the TRD springs, shocks and bars and the four mudguards. Summarily, the car is very well balanced, rides surprisingly well, is quiet, very smooth in operation, well made, utilitarian (holds lots of stuff with the rear seats folded) and downright FUN TO DRIVE. It is MUCH more fun to drive than my '07 Acura. The Yaris's stereo is the car's single weakest point and that's going tomorrow (a Kenwood KDC-MP735U in dash receiver and 4 Infinity Kappas are going in it's place). I averaged an even 35 MPG on my first tank on a still green engine with some of "enthusiasm" in my driving style... The little car just hums along...This car's brakes feel better in every way than the "Brembos" in my '07 Acura TL. The Yaris's brakes are much quieter, far more progressive, firmer and simply feel stronger. (The car's light weight is a factor, but the bottom line is all I really care about.) What an HONEST car this is; it's refreshing that cars like this still exist. For those who "wish" they had "nicer cars, listen to me: They are "nice" in some respects, but they are also very over-rated and introduce as many hassles as they do rewards. |
11-20-2008, 06:27 PM | #2 |
Hey I owned a SHO and I loved it. Nice Vette but where's the Yaris!!
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11-20-2008, 06:30 PM | #3 | |
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It's just a 1421 (Toyota model #) that's blue and sits 1.2" lower than most others due to the TRD springs...It has the stock wheels and tires, which I plan on running year 'round. Not a whole lot to see, really. The SHO was the absolute worst car I've ever owned. It did nothing but break and all four doors visibly moved when I went over certain sections of rough roads here. Water leaked past the window seals on two doors in car washes... Junk... The Yaris is MUCH better built than that SHO. |
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11-20-2008, 07:03 PM | #4 |
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I'll take that big hassle off your hands then, trade for my '08? =]
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11-20-2008, 07:16 PM | #5 |
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I have a 1963 fuelie split window with 22K original miles. They certainly don't make like that anymore. I love my Yaris too....great little car for what it is!
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11-20-2008, 07:37 PM | #6 | |
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The "375 HP" (Gross) rating of that engine equates to something on the order of 275 Net, as illustrated by the ~ 101 MPH Trap Speeds (and curb weight combinations) of the day. Go drive a new LS3 and you'll be blown away....until something "small" (e.g. any of the power accessories) breaks and you have t return to the dealership - AGAIN! |
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11-20-2008, 07:22 PM | #7 |
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...can I come over and ride in it? lol
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11-20-2008, 07:35 PM | #8 |
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The fuelie is a beast....sounds better than a Ferrari and is just loving to be revved around 7500 RPM
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11-20-2008, 07:43 PM | #9 | |
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They produced something on the order of 275 NET HP (the way modern engines are rated). The old "gross" ratings were essentially meaningless. Here's an original road test of a 1962 327 "fuelie" Corvette. The car ran the quarter mile in 15.0 seconds @ 95 MPH. The 60 to 100 MPH segment required nearly 10 full seconds, which is pretty lame by today's standards. I like 60 to 100 MPH comparisons, since they eliminate the "but it had skinny tires" excuse that often used for the older cars. http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...t+Corvette.pdf A new, bone stock V6/automatic Camry is a faster car. This 1965 327 fuelie was a little quicker than the other one (14.4. @ 99 MPH). http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=957 That's nothing that a new, bone stock, V6/6 speed Accord coupe couldn't handle. http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...ccordCoupe.pdf Last edited by 09TRD; 11-20-2008 at 08:01 PM. |
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11-21-2008, 07:33 AM | #10 | |
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I sometimes confuse that with the vette which also loves to be revved to the 6500 RPM that you mentioned...and it will stay there. I don't get on the fuelie often as it's a concours car. I am going to pick it up today AAMOF as I recently had the bearings in the steering replaced. |
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11-21-2008, 08:03 AM | #11 |
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11-21-2008, 08:36 AM | #12 | |
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What?....I stated that I sometimes get the two confused. It is not feasible that I make a typo in regards to missing the RPM points by 1000 points? If you think that you are Mr. Joe f'ing cool....well you are waaaay off. I own the 327 "fuelie" and happen to know just a few things about it. I also happened to pay $150K cash for it. In other words...I own it. Get off your high horse. |
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11-20-2008, 09:15 PM | #13 |
The SHO was a fun car to blow off 5.0 mustangs..... I used to enjoy the looks on the face of people when they thought it was a family car. I kept up with the maintenance (and alot of it) but I just got tired of it. Never had a leak..... mine was a 1993.
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11-20-2008, 09:54 PM | #14 | |
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Here's an original road test of a bone stock, '88 5.0 Mustang notch; it ran a 14.17 @ 99 MPH straight out of the box: http://www.derekspratt.com/PDFs/Auto...May%201987.pdf As you can see, the SHO (15.2 @ 93 MPH) wasn't in the same league: Last edited by 09TRD; 11-20-2008 at 10:13 PM. |
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11-21-2008, 04:43 PM | #15 |
[QUOTE=09TRD;179940]Either you're dreaming or you ran up against a lot of 5.0/automatic cars and/or people who couldn't drive.
Here's an original road test of a bone stock, '88 5.0 Mustang notch; it ran a 14.17 @ 99 MPH straight out of the box: http://www.derekspratt.com/PDFs/Auto...May%201987.pdf As you can see, the SHO (15.2 @ 93 MPH) wasn't in the same league: [QUOTE] Where's your TRD Yaris pictures? We want to see the dump. As far as dreaming ....... The SHO had a better top end than the mustang and my SHO had a few mods. Do you think I am new to this game? I was modding my 66 chevelle when I was in HS oh....... my chevelle was only 6 years old then. What do I know? Your the proclaimed expert on every car!
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[QUOTE=Bob_VT;180825][QUOTE=09TRD;179940]Either you're dreaming or you ran up against a lot of 5.0/automatic cars and/or people who couldn't drive.
Here's an original road test of a bone stock, '88 5.0 Mustang notch; it ran a 14.17 @ 99 MPH straight out of the box: http://www.derekspratt.com/PDFs/Auto...May%201987.pdf As you can see, the SHO (15.2 @ 93 MPH) wasn't in the same league: Quote:
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11-21-2008, 05:28 PM | #18 |
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So you must consider a 15.2 second, 93 MPH (in the 1/4 mile) a "fast car," since that's how stock SHOs ran
A new, bone stock Camry V6/automatic will run mid 14s @ 100 MPH right out of the box. That's enough to embarrass a bone stock SHO. The SHO's cylinder heads were junk by modern standards; it only made 220 HP for God sake. The new Camry's V6 weighs about the same as the SHO, but makes 268 CERTIFIED SAE Net HP and is therefore a faster car. I OWNED A SHO; it was a 1995 that I bought brand new. My 2006 V6/6 speed Accord coupe was a significantly faster car. Both are dog A** slow compared to my '09 'Vette and even that isn't overly "fast" by some of today's standards. Here, compare the Taurus SHO test results with those of a new Camry V6; it's not even close. SHO: CAMRY V6: Last edited by 09TRD; 11-21-2008 at 05:42 PM. |
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