Lowing Springs vs Coilovers

[06YarisRS]

I've been vacillating between coilovers and lowering springs for the past couple of weeks. I have a number of things that I plan to do to the car that will require some significant funds, so I'm inclined to take the cheaper route here. The stock handling with TRD rear sway bar is pretty good, but I want to go a bit lower; about 1" lower. I have no plans of tracking the car but would like a wee bit more cornering stability. I polled Trevor (tmontague) and appreciate his advice, which is basically that if I'm not tracking my car and just want a bit of an improvement in handling, plus my 1" drop, go for the lowering springs and aftermarket dampers. Hope you don't mind me paraphrasing you, Trevor.

Anyway, here are some pics of my current setup. I realized a day or two ago, that I can't lower the car much more than an inch or I'll be getting close to my turbo drain hose. I'm optimistic that the Eibach Pro Kit (assuming I can get my hands on them, been having a little trouble contacting the outfit) 1" drop will allow me lower the car without contact with the car body under all driving conditions.






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[06YarisRS]

Just bit the bullet. Ordered a set of Eibach springs from Tunershop. We shall see if it goes through. They're coming from Germany, seemingly unavailable in the USA or Canada. I'll have to borrow a set of spring compressors from our school shop.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Which damper set are you going with? That's the nice thing about (quality) coilovers. They're usually valved/matched for their intended spring rates.

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Which damper set are you going with? That's the nice thing about (quality) coilovers. They're usually valved/matched for their intended spring rates.

According to Eibach, these are designed to go with the stock dampers. I assume, since they're vehicle specific, they would be designed around the OE spring characteristics. I'll try that and if it's not what I'm looking for, I'll look into appropriate dampers. It may be moot anyway, as I received an email this morning from tunershop Germany and they inform me that they are out of stock. If I didn't get the last set, I'll cancel my order as I'm not waiting a month or two, which apparently is when they will have stock again.

Yesterday, I spoke with a Canadian outfit and got lots of info on this coilover set. They seemed to know their stuff and recommended a custom spring rate based on the fact that my car is a hatch as opposed to a sedan. Although they don't sell Fortune Auto coilovers, they will eventually become a certified dealer. They suggested Fortune Auto coilovers as an alternative. I was rather surprised that they'd recommend the purchase of someone else's product.

https://racingcoiloverscanada.com/pr...8c9e504c&_ss=r

[stidnam]

Damn. Should have looked into the Bilstein B12 kit. Comes with B8 shocks and Eibach springs. I threw them in my car and have been pretty happy with them.

However, now I wish I had of gone the B14 coilover kit as I want the car a little lower.

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by stidnam

Damn. Should have looked into the Bilstein B12 kit. Comes with B8 shocks and Eibach springs. I threw them in my car and have been pretty happy with them.

However, now I wish I had of gone the B14 coilover kit as I want the car a little lower.

Hah, I was just looking at this and about to post.

http://garage16.ca/bilstein/bilstein...i-2444199.aspx

[stidnam]

Yeah, I wish I'd gone those now.

Jason@SportsCar put some in his daily according to this thread

https://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sh...postcount=1302

*edit* based on that price in your link, it'd nearly be cheaper to buy them out of the UK as well.

[06YarisRS]

The deal is done. I bought this coilover set, but for $849.00 CAD from another outfit. Shipping is $110.00. $1083.00 all in. I hope I've made the right decision. I read many 'testimonials' and watched videos. Apparently it's a very 'streetable' set.

https://www.tdotperformance.ca/hsd-h...itz-ncp91.html

Obviously, this is a generic pic:

[Leegamer]

Nice! Do they come with all the mounts or do you need to re-use anything from the stock struts?

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by Leegamer

Nice! Do they come with all the mounts or do you need to re-use anything from the stock struts?

I'm pretty sure that the factory strut mounts need to be reused. I'll Likely pick up a set of new ones. They do look nice, don't they. The reviews I've read have been overwhelmingly positive as compared to the 'eBay type' coilovers, such as Godspeed, Rev9, for example.

Here are some pics of the car as it is. I think a 1" drop to start will be good. I may have to use a heat gun on the plastic front inner fender liner edge. Fortunately the plastic liner which extends inward can be easily moulded upwards. I'm pretty sure the tires will completely clear the quarter panel wheel well edges.

[Leegamer]

Makes sense. I think a 1 inch drop will look fantastic and provide a good handling improvement.

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by Leegamer

Makes sense. I think a 1 inch drop will look fantastic and provide a good handling improvement.

I think so too, Leegamer.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I think you shouldn't rub with a 1" drop. I didn't rub with Tein S.Tech springs on OEM dampers, and those drop the car a lot. But then again, I wasn't running wide tires. lol

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I think you shouldn't rub with a 1" drop. I didn't rub with Tein S.Tech springs on OEM dampers, and those drop the car a lot. But then again, I wasn't running wide tires. lol

Yeah, I hope it won't rub. This is part of the reason I went with coilovers. More adjustability. Even if I don't get a full 1" drop, I will get better handling.

[Neinris]

How come I don't ever hear recommendation for Tein Suspension? Is it the color? LOL!!!
I have the lowering springs installed in mine, the first mod that I did, and they're pretty comfortable, and I think it's a pretty good height. With the lower center of gravity she handles much better than stock. My only issue is that the stock shocks don't dampen enough, so there's a little bit oscillation when I hit a dip, or go over a hump/speed bump. So I was thinking of putting TRD shocks in hope of fixing the issue, or should I just go with full coil overs? There are two types, the cheaper one is without adjustable damper.

https://parts.mcgeetoyotaofdudley.co...iABEgIjHfD_BwE


https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...yABEgKtg_D_BwE

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...2-yaris-07-11/

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by Neinris

How come I don't ever hear recommendation for Tein Suspension? Is it the color? LOL!!!
I have the lowering springs installed in mine, the first mod that I did, and they're pretty comfortable, and I think it's a pretty good height. With the lower center of gravity she handles much better than stock. My only issue is that the stock shocks don't dampen enough, so there's a little bit oscillation when I hit a dip, or go over a hump/speed bump. So I was thinking of putting TRD shocks in hope of fixing the issue, or should I just go with full coil overs? There are two types, the cheaper one is without adjustable damper.

https://parts.mcgeetoyotaofdudley.co...iABEgIjHfD_BwE


https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...yABEgKtg_D_BwE

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...2-yaris-07-11/

Haha, color doesn't matter to me as I may paint mine black anyway. I looked at the Teins. I just couldn't get good pricing with shipping in/to Canada. After doing a lot of reading on the HSD coilovers, I found an outfit in Canada that offered me the set at wholesale pricing. $849.00 plus $110.00 shipping. I would have been into $1500.00 minimum for Teins, BCs etc. I was hoping to get into a set of lowering springs plus struts and rear shocks for under $1000.00. So, basically an additional ~ $80.00, I got a fully adjustable coilover kit that has great reviews. I like that they have variable damping. I have a feeling that they'll be pretty stiff and having the ability to soften things a wee bit for our roads around here will be good.

[ern-diz]

I've been running the Tein S Tech springs in mine for a few years and this last Saturday, installed Biltstein B8 shocks and struts. Huge improvement. They're not adjustable like a set of coil overs would be, but the ride is excellent. Given that my goal for the car is a TRD like, super street type car and not a track machine, I couldn't be happier for both the cost and result.

[06YarisRS]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

I've been running the Tein S Tech springs in mine for a few years and this last Saturday, installed Biltstein B8 shocks and struts. Huge improvement. They're not adjustable like a set of coil overs would be, but the ride is excellent. Given that my goal for the car is a TRD like, super street type car and not a track machine, I couldn't be happier for both the cost and result.

That is awesome news, Ernie! Am I going to have to ask for pics? LOL. I am anxious to get your driving impressions, old vs new. I hope I don't regret the coilovers. Hopefully they aren't too stiff.