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04-01-2009, 05:36 AM | #1 |
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Auto-X/Street Tire Choice.
Ok, this is a basic discussion thread for what tires you think are best or use for both Autocross and Street applications.
Basic Contenders under $100 per tire: Base selection is set for 205/50/16, so tire prices may vary depending on application. All prices were checked at Tirerack.com Fuzion ZRi Falken Ziex 912 Pirelli PZero Nero Khumo AST or ASX Goodyear Eagle GT Yokohama S drive The Yoko's seemed to test best in their class...but real world tests are more of where I like to see the truth Please keep it on topic for tire use for both street and track purposes, we all know that you could spend the little extra and get Proxes or KDW's and have a much better feel or grip, but most of us out there are not willing to spend $130 per tire, unless its a must.
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04-01-2009, 08:32 AM | #2 |
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...=1&RunFlat=All
These are much better suited to your needs than the tires you have listed OOOps I posted 15" tires instead of 16" http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...6&startIndex=0 Try the Hankooks Ventus
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For Falken, imo the RT-615 is the better choice. I don't know about your 16s but my 205/50/15s were some $80 apiece (Discount Tire). I'm on my second set of these for daily driving (I figured don't I want grip at least as much on the street as at an auto-x?) and the only tires I've ever liked better were a set of Michelin Pilots that cost twice as much.
I switched to the Falkens from a set of the Kumho ASXs... I didn't like the kuhmos that much at any inflation, and they were downright scary in the rain. |
04-01-2009, 10:20 AM | #4 |
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Any of those would be fine for street use and mediocre for autocross use.
For serious grip, the current best street/autox tires are (in order from good to better): Hankook RS2 Falken Azenis BFG Potenza RE-01 (on closeout, possibly cheap) Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec Toyo R1-R Most of those can be had for under $100 in 15" sizes (except the Toyos), don't know about 16s. Check the status of the closeout on the RE-01 at the Tire Rack, the prices were GREAT, and it's a fantastic tire! |
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I autocrossed both the RS2 and the RT615 while the RT615 had better turn in feel, I did better with the RS2, it may have been due to running in colder weather, it seemed to me like the RT615 needed to be really hot to work, on cold days in the spring and early fall the RT 615 fell short.
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04-01-2009, 12:07 PM | #6 |
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I run my Falken Ziex 912s on the street and do the occasional autocross with them, too. I've been happy with their performance for what they are.
Being in Florida, you probably don't need an all-season tire, though (since it doesn't get that cold). If I were you, I'd go with a summer tire. Here in Oregon it gets cold enough in the winter (32 or less sometimes) that I don't want to run a summer-only tire.
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04-01-2009, 12:13 PM | #7 |
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Yea, summer tires are a do-able thing here, coldest it got this winter was 31, no snow...just ice on the windshield.
I had a set of Falken 912's, loved em...but that was because I was going from all season radials that were heavy, bulky, and didnt grip worth a damn. When I got my rims now, I went with the cheapest performance compound tire I could get, which ended up being about the same feel as the 912's, but I did have another inch of just rim, then another 1.25 inch of tire wider than the last ones. So I wasnt really sure if it was just due to the increased contact with the road or the actual tire itself. Thats why I started this thread, I am trying to find a good compromise between cost, treadwear, and most of all traction.
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04-01-2009, 12:19 PM | #8 |
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Get a set of RE-01's or Star Specs. They will blow your mind.
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04-01-2009, 12:20 PM | #9 |
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Man, I'm kind of pissed I got 912's now. Where was this thread a year ago?
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04-01-2009, 12:57 PM | #10 |
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I'll still swear by the Proxes4 on the car now. Only $99 each from Tiresavings.com excl. shipping.
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04-01-2009, 01:13 PM | #11 |
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Damn...thanx for the website, Toyo T1-R are only 118 a pop.
LOL but the R1-R are $165 Anyone had luck with the Falken FK 452's?
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How much do the proxes and T1s weigh?? edit: google answered, nvm http://www.miata.net/faq/tire_weights.html the T1s are pretty light actually. |
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04-04-2009, 11:17 AM | #14 |
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I'm using them, but in 18" size...over 20,000km (roughly 12,500mi) and the fronts are getting a little bald, time for a front to back swap soon
Overall they've been really good. Mind you, I don't really have experience with other performance tires, but they have served my needs well, most importantly they handle tropical rainstorms well But, I understand they're more of a "show" tire than a true performance one...
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04-01-2009, 05:10 PM | #15 |
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FYI, the T1-R is a completely different animal. The R1-R is almost a "race tire for the street", super-grippy, super-responsive.
The T1-R is fairly grippy, but not as grippy as an Azenis. It is a GREAT all-around tire, and fantastic in the rain. It's shortcoming from the performance aspect is that it has soft sidewalls... great for ride quality and quietness, but really poor steering response and feedback. |
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I ordered a set of Kuhmo ecsta XS on Friday. I hope to have them installed this Friday before Sunday's autox event. 205/50-15
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I just bought a Set of Dunlop Star specs and for the little bit I used them on the street they cruise very smooth but roar at about 40mph and the roar goes away at highway speeds. As far as handling they are amazing I got to test them in wet and dry and didn't feel all that different. i recomend these big time!!!!!
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