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04-07-2013, 04:53 PM | #1 |
I'm going boosted!
So I've finally made the call to go boosted. I'm going to install the Zage turbo kit.
Here is what I was thinking. Any and all input is greatly appreciated as this is my first turbo build. Glowshift gauges: -Boost/vacuum -Oil pressure -Wideband (afr) Auto Gauge: -Tachometer Scan Gauge II -for code reading Zage Turbo kit, including the AEM F/IC + Boomslang harness I've done some research to see what additional parts/misc items I may need. Its a long list, I feel confident it should suffice. With that said. Is there anything anyone would like to add/comment on? Feel free to add your .02. (if you suggest an item/misc part, I will simply quote you saying either its already on the list or thanking you for letting me know I need/should have it) Thanks all. -B EDIT: References for shopping list/misc parts: Preinstall guide Zage install guide |
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04-07-2013, 06:31 PM | #2 |
Awesome!
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sounds like a good list,
one thing i would steer clear of are the glow shift gauges. i installed them on the echo. the boost guage is not accurate unless you are at sea level and the buttons rattle like crazy. go all autometer, as for wideband spend the money and get a good one. innovate (my favourite) you can calibrate and cheep replacement sensors aem wideband is also a great option. if doing a boost controler just get the aem trueboost and call it a day. |
04-07-2013, 07:37 PM | #3 |
Good list. I would upgrade the oil return off the turbo.
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04-07-2013, 08:37 PM | #4 |
@Scubaru - How would the boost gauge not be accurate unless at sea level?
@Kou - how would I upgrade the oil return line? |
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04-07-2013, 11:44 PM | #5 |
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[QUOTE=yariSB86;693373]@Scubaru - How would the boost gauge not be accurate unless at sea level?
as you gain in elevation it thinks your in vacuum, im at 4000, ft.. i need 5psi to show i hit boost. i have replaced the gauge and even called glow shift. they said sorry, there is no way to calibrate it. the colors, peak, and hold are cool. but in my opinion they are only for show. i have autometers, aem, innovate, glowshift and Defi. once you have a quality set of instruments you wont go back. http://www.egauges.com/ these are expensive but amazing! dont need a controler Defi Prosport is also a decent entry level gauge. they have come a long way. |
04-08-2013, 03:20 PM | #6 |
This is what I am going to use for the oil return 10AN XRP hose end fittings and some push lock hose.
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04-07-2013, 09:33 PM | #7 |
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^ The best install is to run the oil return line into the block, above the oil line. There are pictures and a thread about it. You just need a couple of fittings and a line. I would still use the Zage pan provided with the plug that comes with it.
On the gauges, at the very least spend the extra money for a really good air/fuel gauge. It will become your intimate friend.
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04-07-2013, 09:51 PM | #8 |
@Garm - Are you referring to "tapping into the block" for the oil return?
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+1 ... you would be shocked to know what is really happening if you didn't have one that is solid and the correct installation location of the bung. Quote:
Other than that I would go with something other than the F/IC. I know that there are plenty of folks that would argue with me, but after having 2 of them in less than 2 years, having shotty telephone support (lack of knowledge by staff), and personally running into others that do autocross, 1/4 mile, speed runs, etc I won't be installing another one. If you can really swing it take the additional funds and go with an "upgraded" solution over the F/IC.
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04-08-2013, 12:30 AM | #10 | |
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04-08-2013, 01:17 PM | #11 |
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Yes sir. I have a spare one sitting in my garage right now that will replace the one that is currently on my installed motor.
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04-08-2013, 04:08 PM | #12 |
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Here is a photo and yes I flipped it upside down to make it easier orientation-wise...haha
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04-20-2013, 11:19 AM | #13 | |
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You will want to tap the upper pan to prevent possible smoking in the future.
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04-08-2013, 12:15 PM | #14 |
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This thread. I like this.
I can't speak for the quality of glowshift gauges, but like everyone else has said, splurge on a good wideband. That's by far the most important, especially if you're self-tuning. I'd also recommend avoiding mechanical oil pressure gauges. I've had oil end up places it shouldn't be. Another thing - if you don't want to waste money on another bov, don't worry about it. I was using the Zage bov for the last two months and finally got it working consistently. Turns out there was too much preload (and you have to loosen it to a practically uncomfortable point of preload). How will you be tuning? And who will be doing it? |
04-08-2013, 01:19 PM | #15 |
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How would a digital OPG be of more benefit? I have the mechanical Autometer that goes from 0-100psi. I did have to replace the sending unit, but that was because of what happened when my first motor blew up. Other than that it has worked flawlessly.
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I was planning on tuning the F/IC myself and getting the actual car tuned professionally. Where I have yet to find >_< |
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04-08-2013, 06:47 PM | #17 | |
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What else is there to tune?
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04-08-2013, 02:31 PM | #18 |
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^ mechanical means oil actually goes to the gauge in a line. No sending unit.
It has nothing to do with digital vs. analog display on the gauge.
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