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Old 11-02-2008, 01:32 AM   #1
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We should have a diesel yaris!

What do you think, should the US have a diesel yaris?
I think is time the US had a diesel yaris, or more available smaller diesel cars.
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:39 PM   #2
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I agree, I've been saying this since I joined the forums.
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:29 PM   #3
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Prooooooooooooobably ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:38 PM   #4
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There have always been cool cars that make lots of sense in the world. The USA folks have never had the freedom to drive what we want due to POLITICS!!!...think of that, all you Einsteins that are continually duped into the R vs D fighting....IMHO none of you edumicated idiots desreve 100mpg cars.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:51 PM   #5
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Toyota has the hybrid plan for the U.S. and probably the world. yes they have diesels. Unfortunately places such as California or the socialist state have very strict emissions that make diesel expensive to import. And other states are adopting that. Yes VW and Merc have diesels but at a high price. Also consider diesel is more expensive than gas! So there's another case against it. Don't get me wrong I would love a diesel car as well but probably not going to happen soon.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:28 PM   #6
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Great topic

It might be a good idea since gas and diesel prices in my area are about the same.

Fingers crossed.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:31 PM   #7
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1.4 D4D will never hit US shores...

Murrica is all about gasoline and big SUV's lmfao
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:25 PM   #8
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The problem with the emissions for the diesel is NO (Nitros Oxide). Steps have been taken such as the introduction of Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel. Which is one of the reasons diesel now costs more than gasoline. Dodge and their diesel manufacture Cummins have gone to great lengths to meet the 2010 EPA guidelines. They went from a 5.9L to a 6.7L. The 6.7 rmp's are lower and thus the egt (exahaust gas tempatures) are lower which in turn produces lower NO levels. Ironically for a small torque increase and better emissions the mpg are 2-3 less. I doubt that most diesel car could meet the forth coming epa levels in the US.
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:26 PM   #9
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The problem with the emissions for the diesel is NO (Nitros Oxide). Steps have been taken such as the introduction of Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel. Which is one of the reasons diesel now costs more than gasoline. Dodge and their diesel manufacture Cummins have gone to great lengths to meet the 2010 EPA guidelines. They went from a 5.9L to a 6.7L. The 6.7 rmp's are lower and thus the egt (exahaust gas tempatures) are lower which in turn produces lower NO levels. Ironically for a small torque increase and better emissions the mpg are 2-3 less. I doubt that most diesel car could meet the forth coming epa levels in the US.
i think you meant CO2

and Nitrous Oxide is N2o

but nice try anyway ;)
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:09 PM   #10
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Its not NOx(nitrogen oxide) or CO2 that diesels have main problems with but black soot(diesel particulate matter). ULSD allows us to use better emissions systems for diesel powered cars to reduce emissions even more.

We will get more diesel powered cars soon. It's just a matter of demand for them. Too much Hybrid Hype.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:41 AM   #11
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There is absolutly no reason diesels couldn't come to America other than political BS. Emissions, cost, etc., are all a bunch of BS with no foundation. Diesels don't cost more to produce, there are just less of them. Diesel fuel has less refining steps than gasoline. Emissions can be met several different ways as shown by Dodge, VW, and Mercedes. Believe what you want, but we are getting hosed for no reason. And Fuck the gas/electric hybrid hype. Diesel/electric is better, full electric best. But lets just start with diesel...
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:56 AM   #12
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Honda is supposedly coming out with a Honda Accord Diesel in 2009 which should stir up some sh!t and get the ball rolling hopefully. When a company like Honda, which markets themselves as one of the cleanest, greenest car companies in the world, comes out with a diesel powered car, it should get a ton of attention which may make people think diesel.

The main problem is that a lot of these car companies spent millions of dollars R&D'ing their gas/electric hybrid technology and they need to make their money back. So bringing diesel cars to America would be a direct competition against their hybrid cars. Which means loss sales, money, and everything else they put into this technology.

It would seriously make hybrids look like a gimmick and its only selling point would be that its cleaner then Diesel. And no one really cares about that sh!t, people want good gas mileage, power, cost efficient good looking car. No ones really going to care about emissions until the day comes when you go outside and your lungs burn from the air you breath, you can barely see the blue skies, and the polar bears migrate so far south they end up in California.

This is also the reason why German car companies are able to sell diesel cars in America. They didn't invest money into hybrid gas/electric technology and also because, it is THEIR technology, lol. Only problem is, most of their car's prices are out of reach for most Americans. Only thing that the German car companies need to do is bring their smaller sized 4cyl diesels that get better mileage but has as much torque as a V6 gas engine. It would be cheaper and make it more attractive as a fuel efficient, powerful, low cost luxury car.

Also another thing is education. Most of America don't know about Diesel Technology, its the advancements and improvements over the years. People still think its same dirty crap that came out in the 1970s because of the oil crisis. If you ask someone about diesel, they refer it to as the loud, smelly, black smoking belching trucks that we see on the road. If no one knows how great this technology is, no ones really going to give a sh!t about it.
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:51 AM   #13
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Mbenz has Bluetech.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:25 AM   #14
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Toyota has the D-cat system!
It's one of the cleanest 4 cylinder diesel engines of the world.

Here's a video clip of my Yaris D-4D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJTezSqzqY

If you want to see other video's of my diesel Yaris you can see it here --->
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7775
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:36 AM   #15
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I've said it before and i'll say it again, i wish we had the D-4D Yaris available here in Australia. We have D-4D options on vans and hi lux. Why not have it avail on the yaris?
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:37 AM   #16
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isn't that from ninja turtles?
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:45 AM   #17
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Yup.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:56 PM   #18
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I'd buy a diesel Yaris in a hearbeat if it were offered here. However, I don't see that happening anytime soon. I wish the U.S. had more diesel offering than VW and Mercedes-Benz. I probably wouldn't own another VW (my wife had a Jetta) and I can't afford a Benz.
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