WTF BBQ no 5pd option for 5 door s? - Toyota Yaris Forums

kustom play · 02-16-2009, 11:19 PM

so i was putzing around at toyota while the g/f gets her tc serviced. I had the yaris since we were going to drop it off but it was only going to take an hour so we hung around

anyway i was talking with the dealer and they offered to buy my yaris for what i paid for it last year and get me in a new yaris S

so i was like ORLY?

so i tell them i want a 5 door S in polar white

cant find one in 5 speed.... how odd

come to find out they only offer it in the 3 door

kinda bummed me out a bit

so i started looking at the x-runner

hotness

but anyway anybody else bothered by this?

dvlnblkdrs · 02-16-2009, 11:24 PM

we all knew this when it was released. toyota didnt see enough of a market for manuals in the 5door...

1NZYaris1 · 02-16-2009, 11:28 PM

That applies to the whole wide world too , if i am not mistaken.
sucks but i can live with it

IllusionX · 02-16-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1NZYaris1

That applies to the whole wide world too , if i am not mistaken.
sucks but i can live with it

5 speed 5 doors yaris is likely to be available world wide, except in the states.

at least, it is available in Canada as a 5 door RS.

Kal-El · 02-17-2009, 12:01 AM

Doesn't make much sense to me. How is it that sedan and 3-door buyers want MT's but somehow 5 door LB buyers wouldn't? Come on Toyota...

Heck, if they build them in other markets anyway, how difficult is it to ship some to the US?

Certainly, in Europe/Asia they are readily available. Every car overseas is available with a stick. In fact, they think automatics are for lazy people.

I guess we just have to appreciate that Toyota brought the 5-door over here at all!

Tamago · 02-17-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dvlnblkdrs

we all knew this when it was released. toyota didnt see enough of a market for manuals in the 5door...

xD>yaris 5d

Havana · 02-18-2009, 10:03 AM

Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.

kustom play · 02-18-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Havana

Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.

I would agree

the first thing they said was how about and XD or XB?

they had rows upon rows of XD and XB's but only about 4-6 yari on the lot

i read something that scion sales were way down due to poor marketing

they dropped the bomb hardcore on the new XB design and openly admitted that

The XD has not sold as projected, and i know a ton of scion owners were mad that they are reusing special edition RS colors over and over again.

They put out this ridiculous concept car the flops hardcore

when scion came out on the market the 1st gen XA and XB were awesome

totally different option! now its like they lost there way

i was really hoping they would bring the open deck Bb over or the new gen Bb but we get this monstrosity car and driver dubbed the "kids mini van"

it grinds my gears about the 5 door

its kinda like toyota telling you go but a fit if you want 5 spd

Tamago · 02-18-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kustom play

i read something that scion sales were way down due to poor marketing

so basically you're saying you wouldn't buy an xD because toyota didn't market it properly?

does this make it any LESS of a contender (dominator) of the 5door yaris?

no.

kustom play · 02-17-2009, 01:10 AM

i just cant see the "sport package" coming in just a auto

tisk tisk

dvlnblkdrs · 02-17-2009, 06:36 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogWLPJII1M

she agrees

ddongbap · 02-17-2009, 08:42 AM

Just because you guys don't see the reason behind it, doesn't mean there isn't one.

Phaeton · 02-17-2009, 09:07 AM

Sadly it seems there are more people that want an automatic than a manual these days.
I was talking to my neighbor the other day about the same subject, he's 42 and never driven a manual.

SailDesign · 02-17-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Phaeton

... he's 42 and never driven a manual.

That's just sad. Only one of my 4 kids is auto-only.

PETERPOOP · 02-17-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phaeton

I was talking to my neighbor the other day about the same subject, he's 42 and never driven a manual.

he is not a man.

dvlnblkdrs · 02-17-2009, 09:10 AM

id love to learn manual, but idk anyone who will teach me(and no i wont just buy a manual and learn myself...)

firemachine69 · 02-17-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dvlnblkdrs

id love to learn manual, but idk anyone who will teach me(and no i wont just buy a manual and learn myself...)

You just want to play with the stick, don't you?

Havana · 02-17-2009, 09:25 AM

Not offering a M/T in the 5 door almost cost Toyota a sale in my case. Ultimately, I compromised on what I wanted and went with the 3 door. I just liked the Yaris so much better than the competition but still feel a bit shafted by not having the same transmission choices as the Canadian market.

02-16-2009, 11:19 PM	#1
kustom play pink wheels are cool View User's Garage Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,407	WTF BBQ no 5pd option for 5 door s? so i was putzing around at toyota while the g/f gets her tc serviced. I had the yaris since we were going to drop it off but it was only going to take an hour so we hung around anyway i was talking with the dealer and they offered to buy my yaris for what i paid for it last year and get me in a new yaris S so i was like ORLY? so i tell them i want a 5 door S in polar white cant find one in 5 speed.... how odd come to find out they only offer it in the 3 door kinda bummed me out a bit so i started looking at the x-runner hotness but anyway anybody else bothered by this?

02-16-2009, 11:24 PM	#2
dvlnblkdrs Shush! View User's Garage Drives: 2007 toyota yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange, ca Posts: 3,521	we all knew this when it was released. toyota didnt see enough of a market for manuals in the 5door... __________________ "Kids sure like the devil these days"

02-16-2009, 11:28 PM	#3
1NZYaris1 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,566	That applies to the whole wide world too , if i am not mistaken. sucks but i can live with it __________________ http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/index.php

02-17-2009, 06:36 AM	#11
dvlnblkdrs Shush! View User's Garage Drives: 2007 toyota yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange, ca Posts: 3,521	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogWLPJII1M she agrees __________________ "Kids sure like the devil these days"

02-17-2009, 09:10 AM	#16
dvlnblkdrs Shush! View User's Garage Drives: 2007 toyota yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange, ca Posts: 3,521	id love to learn manual, but idk anyone who will teach me(and no i wont just buy a manual and learn myself...) __________________ "Kids sure like the devil these days"

02-17-2009, 12:01 AM	#5
Kal-El Drives: 07 Yaris S Sedan 5-Speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,179	Doesn't make much sense to me. How is it that sedan and 3-door buyers want MT's but somehow 5 door LB buyers wouldn't? Come on Toyota... Heck, if they build them in other markets anyway, how difficult is it to ship some to the US? Certainly, in Europe/Asia they are readily available. Every car overseas is available with a stick. In fact, they think automatics are for lazy people. I guess we just have to appreciate that Toyota brought the 5-door over here at all!

02-18-2009, 10:03 AM	#7
Havana Drives: 2009 Yaris 3 door M/T Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 56	Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.

02-17-2009, 01:10 AM	#10
kustom play pink wheels are cool View User's Garage Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,407	i just cant see the "sport package" coming in just a auto tisk tisk

02-17-2009, 08:42 AM	#12
ddongbap Banned Drives: yw calls me douche and racist. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hay Posts: 2,183	Just because you guys don't see the reason behind it, doesn't mean there isn't one.

02-17-2009, 09:07 AM	#13
Phaeton View User's Garage Drives: Blazing Blue Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Port Angeles, Wa Posts: 385	Sadly it seems there are more people that want an automatic than a manual these days. I was talking to my neighbor the other day about the same subject, he's 42 and never driven a manual.

02-17-2009, 09:25 AM	#18
Havana Drives: 2009 Yaris 3 door M/T Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 56	Not offering a M/T in the 5 door almost cost Toyota a sale in my case. Ultimately, I compromised on what I wanted and went with the 3 door. I just liked the Yaris so much better than the competition but still feel a bit shafted by not having the same transmission choices as the Canadian market.