DIY Engine Dampener - Toyota Yaris Forums

fuji · 04-09-2009, 01:55 PM

The nitto engine dampener is really expensive for what you get. I it also not adjustable. It would really be nice to have a dampener you could adjust in both compression and rebound. Well, how about a mountain bike rear shock? It frequently can do both and can be found cheap on ebay. All you need to do is some fabrication of the mounting points. What do you guys think???

cali yaris · 04-09-2009, 02:15 PM

Dr Isotope made a few of these for the Scion tC, they were really cool.

It is incorrect to say that the NITTO is not adjustable.

I'm wondering if we could get just the brackets from them and source our own damper. Ingalls sells just their damper alone, might be a good call.

YarisSedan · 04-09-2009, 02:49 PM

Hmm you guys may be on to something. Thinking like the chinese better and cheaper!

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pixitha · 04-09-2009, 03:06 PM

That does seem like a really simple idea that should work great!

yaris-me · 04-09-2009, 05:24 PM

The mountain bike shocks won't last. They are not designed for that kind of harsh loads. My mountain bike rear shock didn't last 2000 miles of street use, and that's on the bike.

Shroomster · 04-09-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by yaris-me

The mountain bike shocks won't last. They are not designed for that kind of harsh loads. My mountain bike rear shock didn't last 2000 miles of street use, and that's on the bike.

go-kart/golf cart shock then maybe?

fuji · 04-09-2009, 07:02 PM

Over the years the shocks have improved. I would not use a ''air-only'' shocks but one of the more robust downhill coilover style shocks.

Are there any other possible sources for nice spring/dampener combos??? I like the golf cart idea.

1NZYaris1 · 04-10-2009, 12:26 AM

What about something like this , fairly inexpensive to boot at $55.00US

Does any body have photos of the bracket and there mounting postion.

SailDesign · 04-15-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yaris-me

The mountain bike shocks won't last. They are not designed for that kind of harsh loads. My mountain bike rear shock didn't last 2000 miles of street use, and that's on the bike.

That's why I ride rigid, baby....

fuji · 04-16-2009, 03:37 AM

Rigid requires some pretty solid balls! But....you may be on to something. Let's say you used a piece of not to thick curved spring steel. Where it attaches to the frame/body you use a piece of rubber or other elastomeric type of material to help isolate some of the vibration. I know there are a couple of threaded holes on the bottom of the engine. Perhaps these can be utilized?

YarisSedan · 04-10-2009, 12:29 AM

not to mention it looks mighty wicked

eTiMaGo · 04-10-2009, 04:42 AM

looks cool for sure... but might it not be a bit too soft? One would need to do the calculations in terms of leverage of course, but I have my doubts

1NZYaris1 · 04-10-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

looks cool for sure... but might it not be a bit too soft? One would need to do the calculations in terms of leverage of course, but I have my doubts

That really depends on what you are trying to achieve , if you want it for pure tracking aspect's then yes , you are probably right .

When comparing it to the likes of a nitto engine damper which is stuffed with rubber rings . Or we could think outside the square and look at a
more street able gas air filled shock that has the ability to be totally tuneable (to a piont ) depending on spring rate and gas pressure.
I could send one to Garm for testing with his rocket ship

cost wise it's 1/2 -2/3rd's the price of the Nitto , it might be worth a shot
it might not .We will never know until we try it

can anyone tell me the length of the Nitto (betwen hole centre's)

yarstar · 04-10-2009, 07:42 AM

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fuji · 04-10-2009, 12:32 PM

The bottom line is it looks like there are quite a few options for shocks. It also looks like you need a fairly stiff spring to help control the motion adequately.

The next big question is how do we mount something like this? Where should we mount it???

cali yaris · 04-10-2009, 12:40 PM

Looking at our motors, it pretty much has to go where the Nitto goes now.

I'm going to buy an Ingalls damper and see about the length of it. That would be a step up from the Nitto design. I'll also measure and try to source a mountain bike shock with the same length if possible.

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04-10-2009, 12:40 PM	#18
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Looking at our motors, it pretty much has to go where the Nitto goes now. I'm going to buy an Ingalls damper and see about the length of it. That would be a step up from the Nitto design. I'll also measure and try to source a mountain bike shock with the same length if possible. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

04-09-2009, 02:49 PM	#3
YarisSedan Drives: 08 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 2,773	Hmm you guys may be on to something. Thinking like the chinese better and cheaper!

04-09-2009, 03:06 PM	#6
pixitha Pixitha View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 22	That does seem like a really simple idea that should work great!

04-09-2009, 05:24 PM	#7
yaris-me Learn to Relax Drives: 2007, Meteorite, LB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 2,070	The mountain bike shocks won't last. They are not designed for that kind of harsh loads. My mountain bike rear shock didn't last 2000 miles of street use, and that's on the bike.

04-09-2009, 07:02 PM	#9
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	Over the years the shocks have improved. I would not use a ''air-only'' shocks but one of the more robust downhill coilover style shocks. Are there any other possible sources for nice spring/dampener combos??? I like the golf cart idea.

04-16-2009, 03:37 AM	#12
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	Rigid requires some pretty solid balls! But....you may be on to something. Let's say you used a piece of not to thick curved spring steel. Where it attaches to the frame/body you use a piece of rubber or other elastomeric type of material to help isolate some of the vibration. I know there are a couple of threaded holes on the bottom of the engine. Perhaps these can be utilized?

04-10-2009, 12:29 AM	#13
YarisSedan Drives: 08 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 2,773	not to mention it looks mighty wicked

04-10-2009, 12:32 PM	#17
fuji Drives: Polar White Yaris HB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 263	The bottom line is it looks like there are quite a few options for shocks. It also looks like you need a fairly stiff spring to help control the motion adequately. The next big question is how do we mount something like this? Where should we mount it???

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