TRD Springs Vs Tanabe DF210...The Title Bout

[detroiter]

There's alot of threads that have SOME info on these springs, I feel more so there is information out there on the DF210's then for the TRD springs. I'd like this thread to have user reviews of each spring AND hard, solid information on them. That way when people search for a definitive thread to choose between the two, because I feel these two springs are choices alot of people decide upon but have a hard time choosing, they will have a one stop shop to help them. It also seems alot of people shy away from the TRD springs and go Tanabe DF210, any particular reason aside from being a 1/2" lower?

Please share your reviews, owner feedback, why you choose what you did and are you happy with your decision. Even add in pictures such as ground level photos so that people can get a good idea of what they are getting into, pictures of the wheel gaps, etc.

[Pitt Yaris]

I'm a noob on suspension and springs, but I would thing trd vs nf210 would be a better battle.

[Pitt Yaris]

If rubbing weren't a problem, I think df210's would be had by over 90% of posters that currently own lowering springs.

[frownonfun]

i originally intended to buy the TRD springs. mainly because i was worried about how much of a drop the DF210's were gonna give. but after talking with cali yaris from micro-image i eventually settled on buying the tanabe springs and i am really glad i did. personally i wish the drop was even a little lower. but i'm still waiting for them to settle a little so it might end up being just perfect. they are also quite a bit cheaper like chinocharles said.

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

i originally intended to buy the TRD springs. mainly because i was worried about how much of a drop the DF210's were gonna give. but after talking with cali yaris from micro-image i eventually settled on buying the tanabe springs and i am really glad i did. personally i wish the drop was even a little lower. but i'm still waiting for them to settle a little so it might end up being just perfect. they are also quite a bit cheaper like chinocharles said.

[Tamago]

DF210's acquire their low stance by lowering their spring rate. awful if you actually DRIVE your car.

how about progress?

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by Tamago

DF210's acquire their low stance by lowering their spring rate. awful if you actually DRIVE your car.

how about progress?

mines a daily driver and i don't think it's all that bad. rougher than it was, no doubt, but not unbearable or anything.

[cali yaris]

DF210's are +15% spring rate, actually. At least get the facts straight.

I did several track days on the DF210's - not bad at all.

progress:
DROP: 1.7" front, 1.8" rear
RATE: 110 lbs. front, 130 lbs. rear

And I have new spring from China to try out 1.5" drop and 4k front / 3.1k rear -- could be good.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

DF210's are +15% spring rate, actually. At least get the facts straight.

I did several track days on the DF210's - not bad at all.

progress:
DROP: 1.7" front, 1.8" rear
RATE: 110 lbs. front, 130 lbs. rear

And I have new spring from China to try out 1.5" drop and 4k front / 3.1k rear -- could be good.

sorry, i should have specified, i did not mean that the rates are lower than stock, i mean that they're lower than they should be, considering the amount of drop they offer.

[PHXDEMON]

Originally Posted by Tamago

sorry, i should have specified, i did not mean that the rates are lower than stock, i mean that they're lower than they should be, considering the amount of drop they offer.

truth. I run DF 210s and they need to be a lot stiffer. I rub all the time on bumps, especially if I have people in the back seat.

[33OH]

Originally Posted by PHXDEMON

truth. I run DF 210s and they need to be a lot stiffer. I rub all the time on bumps, especially if I have people in the back seat.

What wheel size/offset are you running?

[cali yaris]

also H & R which don't publish their rate, but in general I like their products - anyone tried them?

[justjesus]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

also H & R which don't publish their rate, but in general I like their products - anyone tried them?

Seriously! I spoke to them, they would not budge on ANY info on their product.
That won't stop me from buying H&R, though. Well, not that I'm planning on H&R, just saying not knowing their rates....

[detroiter]

lets hear the pros and cons of each spring, good and bad experiences as well

[detroiter]

Aside from the cost, is the TRD springs not as "race" competitive as the DF springs? Obviously a product with the name Toyota on it is going to be more expensive then other brands but aside from the extra cost, there has to be some advantage of the TRD's as compared to the Tanabes.

[cali yaris]

there has to be some advantage of the TRD's as compared to the Tanabes.

Why?

I suppose there is because of the milder drop and some rubbing issues with wheel and tire combinations. In terms of ride and responsiveness, there is no advantage to the TRD springs.

[2006fronty]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Why?

I suppose there is because of the milder drop and some rubbing issues with wheel and tire combinations. In terms of ride and responsiveness, there is no advantage to the TRD springs.

Do you have the TRD rates to compare to the Tanabe's? Without knowing both spring rates you couldn't really say which spring is better. I believe TRD's (and Eibachs) are progressive, and Tanabes are linear. The TRD coils and shocks are matched to each other as well, which I would see as a advantage.

[cali yaris]

i did not mean that the rates are lower than stock, i mean that they're lower than they should be, considering the amount of drop they offer.

ah got it, I would tend to agree with that, but I also prefer a stiffer ride over stock. Tanabe designed the springs that way because 15% offsets the amount they lower the car (the NF210's, with a milder drop are 5% over stock). So you get a lowered car with about the same ride quality. In my experience, the ride is actually just a little bit stiffer than stock.