anyone ever heard of/ tried SALVIA? - Toyota Yaris Forums

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 04-30-2009, 05:43 PM

saw this on G4TV underground last night. smokes like pot and has a high like LSD?
pulled this from google:
“Magic mint”, or Salvia divinorum, is a dangerous new drug that’s being sold on the internet, and as of right now it is legal for people to buy. Teens nationwide have been uploading videos of themselves smoking and suffering from the dangerous affects of this lethal new drug, on Youtube.

Health officials warn that this drug has the same somatic effect as ‘pot’ (marijuana) and feels like LSD (a very dangerous drug that causes severe addiction and hallucinations).

Like most dirty, harmful things that sneak into America, this Salvia takes its origins in Mexico. Kids are taking to the internet in droves to find this herb, so they may smoke and chew it up to become possessed by its ill-affects.

Even if you monitor your child’s internet access, as you’ll see kids as young as eleven have experimented with this drug and are suffering the disastrous consequences. It is even available in hedge shops here in the bay area, being sold by names such as Purple Sticky Salvia for only $20.

It’s tragic to think that the 20 bucks you loan to your son or daughter for a ‘trip to the mall” may actually be going on a drug that will lead them to a life of prostitution, disease and death.

Granted that it mimics weed and LSD, this drug must be very dangerous. Even though 13 states have already banned Salvia, 1.8 million people –many of them teens– are still using the drugs.

AlexNet0 · 04-30-2009, 05:46 PM

Damn, it never stops, does it?

ChinoCharles · 04-30-2009, 06:12 PM

Yes, and like every other drug on earth, it sucks. Stay away.

SailDesign · 04-30-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Yes, and like every other drug on earth, it sucks. Stay away.

+ashitload.

If life sucks that much that you need to use drugs to get through it, you're not doing it right.
Reality - the ultimate high! (plus, it's cheaper)

supmet · 04-30-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

+ashitload.

If life sucks that much that you need to use drugs to get through it, you're not doing it right.
Reality - the ultimate high! (plus, it's cheaper)

Ah, but hallucinogens allow you to experience things that you wouldn't be otherwise able to in life. There are 100s of tribes from every continent but Antarctica that use hallucinogens for rituals as part of their religion. Are they doing it wrong? I realize your statement says if you NEED to use drugs, and I'll agree with you on that one. If you let it take over your life its bad, but that could be said about anything.

Do you feel the same way about alcohol? At least when I trip I know I can't drive

That being said, I've never had good salvia, the best stuff I've had just made my legs numb. Most smoke shops carry very weak salvia and overcharge for it. Everyone I know who has gotten good salvia got it off the internet.

SailDesign · 04-30-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by supmet

Ah, but hallucinogens allow you to experience things that you wouldn't be otherwise able to in life. There are 100s of tribes from every continent but Antarctica that use hallucinogens for rituals as part of their religion. Are they doing it wrong? I realize your statement says if you NEED to use drugs, and I'll agree with you on that one. If you let it take over your life its bad, but that could be said about anything.

Do you feel the same way about alcohol? At least when I trip I know I can't drive

That being said, I've never had good salvia, the best stuff I've had just made my legs numb. Most smoke shops carry very weak salvia and overcharge for it. Everyone I know who has gotten good salvia got it off the internet.

Yup, I feel the same way about alcohol. I have to admit the only reason I don't drink is that my "good buddies" gave me waaaaaay too much on my stag night ("bachelor party" in the US) so I have not wanted any in 34 years or so. Now I just don't bother with it.
But to answer your question - if you need alcohol in your life, you're doing it wrong. I have NOTHING against occasional drinks, a couple of glasses of wine with dinner, etc. But if you cannot live without it, you have a problem.
I smoked for close to 35 years, but gave that up 4 years ago. My choice this time

BailOut · 05-01-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

I smoked for close to 35 years, but gave that up 4 years ago. My choice this time

Congratulations!

I smoked for 20 years and quit 2 1/2 years ago. I wish I could have those 20 years back (especially when I'm mountain biking at 10,000 feet... I doubt my full lung capacity and function will ever return), and I definitely do not want to go through quitting again.

BailOut · 04-30-2009, 06:19 PM

Wow... that snippet you pulled from Google is nothing but pure propaganda.

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 04-30-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BailOut

Wow... that snippet you pulled from Google is nothing but pure propaganda.

so was the tv show i seen.....

ChinoCharles · 04-30-2009, 06:21 PM

LOL, yeah, that is pretty damn skewed.

YAR1S · 04-30-2009, 06:23 PM

:/ they sell it here in head shops.

mrbond · 04-30-2009, 06:40 PM

I agree - it's just propaganda. If anyone took the time to research the effects and properties of Salvinorin A (the active chemical), they'd see that it causes no ill health effects other than lung damage (due to the high burning temperature of the chemical). I used to do this when I was in Indiana for school (a state where it's legal btw). I don't see myself on a path to prostitution, disease and death. As far as natural "drugs" go, this is pretty safe in itself. It's what you do when you're on it (all 15 minutes of it) that makes it dangerous.
I hate propaganda - especially when it's as skewed as this. Do your research and be informed.

Nexus1155 · 04-30-2009, 06:52 PM

www.erowid.org anyone?

ChinoCharles · 04-30-2009, 06:53 PM

Safe my ass. I've seen people have bad reactions to Salvia and its frickin' scary. Stay away.

eii · 05-01-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Safe my ass. I've seen people have bad reactions to Salvia and its frickin' scary. Stay away.

Trips can be bad and are short, definitely not bang for your buck.

blacksandiegovitz · 05-01-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eii

Trips can be bad and are short, definitely not bang for your buck.

^^ True , I'm very 4:20 friendly and I have only done salvia once and I hated it !

ChinoCharles · 04-30-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PK198105

drugs are bad....except maybe chronic

ROFL, 10 out of 10 Snoop Dee-Oh-Double-Gee's agree.

mrbond · 04-30-2009, 07:05 PM

Erowid is definitely a good resource.
Charles - a person has a bad "reaction" because of their mentality. If a person's not prepared for it, they'll freak out like crazy.
This isn't a new plant - it's been used in central and south america for almost 5,000 years for religious/ritualistic purposes.

04-30-2009, 05:43 PM	#1
BLAZINBLUEVITZ View User's Garage Drives: 2007 YARIS 3DOOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,275	anyone ever heard of/ tried SALVIA? saw this on G4TV underground last night. smokes like pot and has a high like LSD? pulled this from google: “Magic mint”, or Salvia divinorum, is a dangerous new drug that’s being sold on the internet, and as of right now it is legal for people to buy. Teens nationwide have been uploading videos of themselves smoking and suffering from the dangerous affects of this lethal new drug, on Youtube. Health officials warn that this drug has the same somatic effect as ‘pot’ (marijuana) and feels like LSD (a very dangerous drug that causes severe addiction and hallucinations). Like most dirty, harmful things that sneak into America, this Salvia takes its origins in Mexico. Kids are taking to the internet in droves to find this herb, so they may smoke and chew it up to become possessed by its ill-affects. Even if you monitor your child’s internet access, as you’ll see kids as young as eleven have experimented with this drug and are suffering the disastrous consequences. It is even available in hedge shops here in the bay area, being sold by names such as Purple Sticky Salvia for only $20. It’s tragic to think that the 20 bucks you loan to your son or daughter for a ‘trip to the mall” may actually be going on a drug that will lead them to a life of prostitution, disease and death. Granted that it mimics weed and LSD, this drug must be very dangerous. Even though 13 states have already banned Salvia, 1.8 million people –many of them teens– are still using the drugs. __________________ EVERYBODY EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO YARISWORLD......

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04-30-2009, 06:40 PM	#12
mrbond View User's Garage Drives: 2008 meteorite hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 960	I agree - it's just propaganda. If anyone took the time to research the effects and properties of Salvinorin A (the active chemical), they'd see that it causes no ill health effects other than lung damage (due to the high burning temperature of the chemical). I used to do this when I was in Indiana for school (a state where it's legal btw). I don't see myself on a path to prostitution, disease and death. As far as natural "drugs" go, this is pretty safe in itself. It's what you do when you're on it (all 15 minutes of it) that makes it dangerous. I hate propaganda - especially when it's as skewed as this. Do your research and be informed. __________________ - HOOOEY! That's one tahny little cawr! What the heck kinda toy is that? - A Toyota Yaris - A whut Yaris?

04-30-2009, 07:05 PM	#18
mrbond View User's Garage Drives: 2008 meteorite hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 960	Erowid is definitely a good resource. Charles - a person has a bad "reaction" because of their mentality. If a person's not prepared for it, they'll freak out like crazy. This isn't a new plant - it's been used in central and south america for almost 5,000 years for religious/ritualistic purposes. __________________ - HOOOEY! That's one tahny little cawr! What the heck kinda toy is that? - A Toyota Yaris - A whut Yaris?

04-30-2009, 06:12 PM	#3
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Yes, and like every other drug on earth, it sucks. Stay away.

04-30-2009, 06:21 PM	#10
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	LOL, yeah, that is pretty damn skewed.

04-30-2009, 06:52 PM	#13
Nexus1155 Bathroom + Laptop = <3 Drives: Audi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dorchester Posts: 1,009	www.erowid.org anyone?

04-30-2009, 06:53 PM	#14
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Safe my ass. I've seen people have bad reactions to Salvia and its frickin' scary. Stay away.

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