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CKaelin · 05-19-2009, 12:34 PM

Isn't it great that our cars already meet these standards? I don't understand the statement I heard on the news this morning. "The new standards will cost the average American car owner $3500?" WRONG!

mrbond · 05-19-2009, 12:47 PM

Well, not all cars meet these standards - suv's for example...and crown victorias, etc.
That is bull what that quote says. Clearly it was made by a very anti-progressive individual who is still very pro-oil industry.

GeneW · 05-19-2009, 09:53 PM

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Clearly it was made by a very anti-progressive individual who is still very pro-oil industry.

Why do you assume that anyone who isn't "green" is being bought off by some "business interest"?

Gene

Zaphod · 05-19-2009, 12:54 PM

Isn't that only for new cars?

I don't see how this will cost the average American car owner $3500.

SeaYa · 05-19-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaphod

I don't see how this will cost the average American car owner $3500.

Funny, a BBC article ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8056908.stm )said the cars will cost $1300 more to make...so if the $3500 is in fact accurate...guess who's pocketing $2200

...not that I trust the BBC anymore than...well....anything.

And yes, they seem to ignore that driving a more fuel efficient vehicle will save you money on fuel vs. a less efficient vehicle.

Zaphod · 05-20-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaYa

Funny, a BBC article ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8056908.stm )said the cars will cost $1300 more to make...so if the $3500 is in fact accurate...guess who's pocketing $2200

...not that I trust the BBC anymore than...well....anything.

And yes, they seem to ignore that driving a more fuel efficient vehicle will save you money on fuel vs. a less efficient vehicle.

I think there are a few flaws in that logic, though.

The first is this. I you're cheap like me you can always avoid that additional $3500 by putting off buying a new car :)

Of course the second is if you're again a cheapskate like me you can just get a more sensible car, like I don't know ... say a Yaris which kind of meets those requirements already.

Of course, if this is just about fleet averages can't they just make 3 zillion billion versions of the Beat and Volt, Zap and whatever else to keep their average mpg down for the fleet?

Maybe it's oversimplification, but it seems to me like it's just easier to increase gasoline tax nationwide, creating the demand for more efficient vehicles, easing back on the taxes as the price per barrel rises, helping to slow the shock to the economy felt the last time around. It just makes more sense to me as demand is what drives the market more than anything else.

marcus · 05-19-2009, 12:56 PM

thats if we make in in 2016.. still have 12/21/2012 to worry about..lolz.

ka0sx · 05-19-2009, 01:35 PM

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thats if we make in in 2016.. still have 12/21/2012 to worry about..lolz.

oh you mean the end of the Maya calendar?
I recommend reading "mysteries of 2012" its a good read provides evidence in both directions.

however i am concerned about the polar switch and the solar cycle at that time.

however i think that standard should have been implemented earlier. Government is always slow to act when corporate interest is involved, unless that corporate interest is now in the governments hands.

marcus · 05-19-2009, 01:42 PM

2012 gives me a shiver... earth misallignment,, or aliens comes back and take over the world..they have been here before and visited many times..." i believe "..lolz. i think im watching too many x-files.

daf62757 · 05-19-2009, 03:58 PM

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2012 gives me a shiver... earth misallignment,, or aliens comes back and take over the world..they have been here before and visited many times..." i believe "..lolz. i think im watching too many x-files.

Al Gore has already landed....and the worse is yet to come!

ka0sx · 05-19-2009, 04:06 PM

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Al Gore has already landed....and the worse is yet to come!

I have one word. MAN-BEAR-PIG

slothman86 · 05-20-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by marcus

2012 gives me a shiver... earth misallignment,, or aliens comes back and take over the world..they have been here before and visited many times..." i believe "..lolz. i think im watching too many x-files.

wow. no joking around. I just had a dream (nap) about the planets aligning up or something like that happening in 2012, that's pretty crazy

marcus · 05-20-2009, 06:51 PM

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wow. no joking around. I just had a dream (nap) about the planets aligning up or something like that happening in 2012, that's pretty crazy

did u read this post before the dream..if so its ur subconscious that triggered that dream. ..then again we all die in 2012 nice knowing you guys.

slothman86 · 05-20-2009, 08:51 PM

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did u read this post before the dream..if so its ur subconscious that triggered that dream. ..then again we all die in 2012 nice knowing you guys.

nope it was completely random, woke up, checked YW opened this thread...

eTiMaGo · 05-19-2009, 01:47 PM

they'll just come for you only, marcus

marcus · 05-19-2009, 01:56 PM

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they'll just come for you only, marcus

cool... i dont mind really i have been dying to meet them..atleast i know there real b4 i die..or maybe if they take me ill live forever.. cant wait to see toyota yaris 3000 model..lolz.

Thirty-Nine · 05-19-2009, 03:04 PM

I wrote a little editorial on this on my Blog. Check it out and feel free to comment:

http://www.subcompactculture.com/200...ards-good.html

Phaeton · 05-19-2009, 08:48 PM

I hope I'm wrong on this one, but I have the feeling the automakers will start trying to market suv's and full size trucks more since they won't have to get as good mileage.

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CKaelin Drives: 2008 Yaris LB 5 speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 140	2016 US FE standards! Isn't it great that our cars already meet these standards? I don't understand the statement I heard on the news this morning. "The new standards will cost the average American car owner $3500?" WRONG! __________________ My other ride's a Gixxer!

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mrbond View User's Garage Drives: 2008 meteorite hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 960	Well, not all cars meet these standards - suv's for example...and crown victorias, etc. That is bull what that quote says. Clearly it was made by a very anti-progressive individual who is still very pro-oil industry. __________________ - HOOOEY! That's one tahny little cawr! What the heck kinda toy is that? - A Toyota Yaris - A whut Yaris?

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Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	I wrote a little editorial on this on my Blog. Check it out and feel free to comment: http://www.subcompactculture.com/200...ards-good.html __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

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