oh my gosh... copy cat... - Toyota Yaris Forums

hhcchen · 10-29-2006, 07:09 PM

someone suite them for piracy...
http://big5.southcn.com/gate/big5/ww...0610270524.htm

Ryosuke · 10-29-2006, 08:11 PM

WTF

Black Yaris · 10-29-2006, 08:25 PM

probibly very similar to what RUF is doing with Porsche http://www.ruf-automobile.de/content...uebersicht.php

Boo · 10-29-2006, 08:54 PM

The first one got the Yaris/Vitz front and xA back

hasher22 · 10-29-2006, 09:32 PM

Thats halirious.............i wonder how it went trough production in the 1st place...

paultyler_82 · 10-29-2006, 10:51 PM

Probably because they're chinese built, China is the mecca of pirated goods and "legal" copyright infringement. If they arent just a blatant ripoff of Toyota products, they may be licensed by the automaker from Toyota for sale in China, built (as someone else mentioned, like RUF) on a toyota chassis with thier own-made (or probably Toyota-made) parts.

07WYarisRS · 10-29-2006, 11:34 PM

The chinese have WAY more part of these cars then you could imagine.
That's why I posted in that thread last week about people boycotting Walmart because it's chinese owned.

Take Suzuki for example
Suzuki is a great company they build awesome bikes and good cars.
Along coms a company called Hyosung A chinese company marketing their own brand of bikes.
Now people flip out and start pointing fingers. Most hate them right away and they start to boycott the copycat chinese company.
Little do people know Hyosung is the chief and key designers for Suzuki. The Chinese company engineered and deveolped their new suspensions, fuel injection systems and the much favored Vtwin engine found in the SV models.
No body copied anyone
People own the rights and sell the rights to other companies to produce and sell products.
That's why I laugh when people think they bought a 100% American or 100% Japanese car or motorcycle. There IS NO SUCH THING ANYMORE, at least in large scale production.
Even companies like Polaris still have engines built by Fugi Heavy but don't mind slapping the MADE IN AMERICA stickers on it.

I would not be surprised if 90% of the Yaris interior is made in China.

Black Yaris · 10-29-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 07WYarisRS

I would not be surprised if 90% of the Yaris interior is made in China.

read your new car sticker Parts 100% Japanese Labor 100% Japanese..... this goes for any car marketed in the US.... BTW... so long as 51% of parts and labor combined can a car be called american...

tomjasz · 10-30-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 07WYarisRS

The chinese have WAY more part of these cars then you could imagine.
That's why I posted in that thread last week about people boycotting Walmart because it's chinese owned.

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Walmart is not Chinese owned, when you shop there you're being fuked by an American company

paultyler_82 · 10-30-2006, 12:00 AM

No part of the Yaris was designed or manufactured (besides probably most of the bare electronic parts, LEDs, resistors, usw.) in China. Most likely, due to restrictive import laws or whatever other reason, Toyota chose to license the design to a Chinese automaker rather than export it directly, it can be much more lucrative for an automaker to do so in certain cases, depending on country and vehicle involved.

07WYarisRS · 10-30-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by paultyler_82

No part of the Yaris was designed or manufactured (besides probably most of the bare electronic parts, LEDs, resistors, usw.) in China. Most likely, due to restrictive import laws or whatever other reason, Toyota chose to license the design to a Chinese automaker rather than export it directly, it can be much more lucrative for an automaker to do so in certain cases, depending on country and vehicle involved.

You guys seem to think Toyota makes all the parts for these things?

Boy you guys have never worked for a major automotive manufacture have you. Toyota like GM and FORD and everyone else had hundreds of suppliers for every component in there car, Some are made by toyota but most are not, they are just made to Toyotas designs or specs. From there the cheapest of set quality is givin the contracts to produce these components.
FI system from one suppier, oil filter from another, ECU's from another everything right down to every nut and bolt is made buy suppiers. Some are Direct Toyota most are not. Some manufacturing plants are in Mexico, Asia, Europe, Canada, USA and all over the world. Then it's all shipped to toyota where they assemble the cars in their plants.

For instance Boman Canada use to make landing gear parts and engine parts for GE for Beoing before they moved overseas.

Toyota has manufacturing assembly plants in China. Not for the YARIS yet that I know of but Toyota has many other companies in China that manufacture parts for Toyota Japan.

Just because this car was not "built" there don't think for a second NO part of this car was not made in China or many other parts of Asia, Mexico, North America, etc.

They do it because it's cheaper for production. Just like GM and Ford have Plants in Canada and Mexico because it's cheaper.
FAW has been working hand in hand with Toyota for decades and is a big chunk of Toyota's manufacturing

These companies are not copy cats... Most already produce the parts for other companies in other countries, they have just been sold the rights to assemble them.

eTiMaGo · 10-30-2006, 12:52 AM

Prime example would be malaysia... the main local manufacturer there, Proton.... started out by building cars under license from Mitsubishi, basically re-branded Champs, Lancers, Colts... At least now since a few years they design their own cars.

hasher22 · 10-30-2006, 12:56 AM

Reminds me of a time when i was young when i thaught everything was made in china. I went up to a black man and said to him "hello, your made in china" and my mum said sorry and we walked away. This was when i was like 5/6 years old.

eTiMaGo · 10-30-2006, 01:13 AM

hahahahahahahha

I guess I'm older than you, most of my toys were still made in japan

Katana · 10-30-2006, 12:42 PM

Such an ugly car!

07WYarisRS · 10-30-2006, 02:51 PM

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C9761/

http://www.automotriz.net/china/china.php

ceres · 11-08-2006, 09:23 PM

Wow.. They actually managed to make the xB even uglier. Didn't think it was possible.

bigsky2 · 10-30-2006, 07:50 PM

Vehicle was "Made in Japan" meaning it was assembled in Japan.

That doesn't translate to 100% manufactured and produced in Japan.
Japan doens't have the capacity to produce all the parts it needs for its own vehicles let alone vehicles for export. A majority of parts are manufactured elsewhere then imported back into Japan for assembly of vehicles.

This is why China is demanding so many commodities such as steel, fuel, and minerals.

There is no way that any vehicle we purchase today is 100% wholly manufactured in "insert country name here".

10-29-2006, 07:09 PM	#1
hhcchen stop staring my star perv Drives: 97 tercel Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: seattle Posts: 335	oh my gosh... copy cat... someone suite them for piracy... http://big5.southcn.com/gate/big5/ww...0610270524.htm

10-29-2006, 08:11 PM	#2
Ryosuke View User's Garage Drives: yaris Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Venezuela Posts: 228	WTF __________________ My Yaris

10-29-2006, 08:25 PM	#3
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	probibly very similar to what RUF is doing with Porsche http://www.ruf-automobile.de/content...uebersicht.php __________________

10-29-2006, 09:32 PM	#5
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Thats halirious.............i wonder how it went trough production in the 1st place... __________________

10-29-2006, 10:51 PM	#6
paultyler_82 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Meteorite Metallic Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 441	Probably because they're chinese built, China is the mecca of pirated goods and "legal" copyright infringement. If they arent just a blatant ripoff of Toyota products, they may be licensed by the automaker from Toyota for sale in China, built (as someone else mentioned, like RUF) on a toyota chassis with thier own-made (or probably Toyota-made) parts. Last edited by paultyler_82; 10-29-2006 at 11:54 PM.

10-29-2006, 08:54 PM	#4
Boo View User's Garage Drives: PW Yaris LB AT Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 241	The first one got the Yaris/Vitz front and xA back

10-29-2006, 11:34 PM	#7
07WYarisRS HardlyDangerous Drives: 09 Yaris LE, H/B, auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ridgeway Ontario Posts: 573	The chinese have WAY more part of these cars then you could imagine. That's why I posted in that thread last week about people boycotting Walmart because it's chinese owned. Take Suzuki for example Suzuki is a great company they build awesome bikes and good cars. Along coms a company called Hyosung A chinese company marketing their own brand of bikes. Now people flip out and start pointing fingers. Most hate them right away and they start to boycott the copycat chinese company. Little do people know Hyosung is the chief and key designers for Suzuki. The Chinese company engineered and deveolped their new suspensions, fuel injection systems and the much favored Vtwin engine found in the SV models. No body copied anyone People own the rights and sell the rights to other companies to produce and sell products. That's why I laugh when people think they bought a 100% American or 100% Japanese car or motorcycle. There IS NO SUCH THING ANYMORE, at least in large scale production. Even companies like Polaris still have engines built by Fugi Heavy but don't mind slapping the MADE IN AMERICA stickers on it. I would not be surprised if 90% of the Yaris interior is made in China. __________________ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

10-30-2006, 12:00 AM	#10
paultyler_82 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Meteorite Metallic Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 441	No part of the Yaris was designed or manufactured (besides probably most of the bare electronic parts, LEDs, resistors, usw.) in China. Most likely, due to restrictive import laws or whatever other reason, Toyota chose to license the design to a Chinese automaker rather than export it directly, it can be much more lucrative for an automaker to do so in certain cases, depending on country and vehicle involved.

10-30-2006, 12:52 AM	#12
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	Prime example would be malaysia... the main local manufacturer there, Proton.... started out by building cars under license from Mitsubishi, basically re-branded Champs, Lancers, Colts... At least now since a few years they design their own cars. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

10-30-2006, 12:56 AM	#13
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Reminds me of a time when i was young when i thaught everything was made in china. I went up to a black man and said to him "hello, your made in china" and my mum said sorry and we walked away. This was when i was like 5/6 years old. __________________

10-30-2006, 01:13 AM	#14
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	hahahahahahahha I guess I'm older than you, most of my toys were still made in japan __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

10-30-2006, 12:42 PM	#15
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	Such an ugly car! __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

10-30-2006, 02:51 PM	#16
07WYarisRS HardlyDangerous Drives: 09 Yaris LE, H/B, auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ridgeway Ontario Posts: 573	http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C9761/ http://www.automotriz.net/china/china.php __________________ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

11-08-2006, 09:23 PM	#17
ceres Club Baby Seals Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NY Posts: 206	Wow.. They actually managed to make the xB even uglier. Didn't think it was possible.

10-30-2006, 07:50 PM	#18
bigsky2 Cousin Vitz View User's Garage Drives: Yaris RS 5DR / Vitz RS wannabe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,082	Vehicle was "Made in Japan" meaning it was assembled in Japan. That doesn't translate to 100% manufactured and produced in Japan. Japan doens't have the capacity to produce all the parts it needs for its own vehicles let alone vehicles for export. A majority of parts are manufactured elsewhere then imported back into Japan for assembly of vehicles. This is why China is demanding so many commodities such as steel, fuel, and minerals. There is no way that any vehicle we purchase today is 100% wholly manufactured in "insert country name here". __________________ 2007 Yaris RS Hatchback Black Sand Pearl 5DR MT DIY Speaker Spacer/Bracket Template for Yaris Hatchback http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1930