Kicker CompVR 05CVR104 - Toyota Yaris Forums

YamilR · 02-07-2007, 05:51 AM

Crutchfield has this subs buy one get one free. Are they any good? I've never had a sound system in my car so this would be my first experience. I noticed that they come in 2 or 4 ohms, whats the difference?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-2smTy15...0&I=2065C10VR4

ChinoCharles · 02-07-2007, 02:02 PM

I haven't heard a CVR since about 2002, so I don't know about the newer versions, but back then those suckers pumped. Great economy sub.

I dont know much about impedence when it comes to woofers... I think how this works is that the lower the number, the better the sub. A 1 ohm stable subwoofer will usually cost an arm and a leg. Spkrman will be all over this one.

JustYYaris · 02-07-2007, 04:42 PM

A subwoofer's electrical impedence usually does not have any impact on the quality of the subwoofer. The incidence of dual 2 ohm is typically lower than a 4 ohm subwoofer, I still think seeing a lower ohm version subwoofer isn't a good indication if the woofer is a quality speaker.
Although I haven't heard that particular woofer, I have heard some of kicker's subwoofers in the past and have been pleased by their bass. I know some of the comps used to be free air capable, I'm not sure if that's still the case. Overall, if you get a product from Kicker, even a low product, you shouldnt' be disapointed. That being said, the old saying still applies... you get what you pay for.

spkrman · 02-07-2007, 10:14 PM

The CVR's are one of the most solid entry level woofs, awesome price there, btw.

Lower load means nothing... back in the day when dual voice coils were just coming out... and the hayday of "cheater" amps that wired to very low loads... the "competition" woofers of the day were the lower the better.. yet and still, it was all marketing, but thats the history of where that myth came from.

Now things are very different, the JL 12w7 is available in single 3 ohm coil... by most accounts, that would mean its junk... :)

Get a solid amp, get the coils that match the amp... or the other way around. Either way it'll work great.

My suggestion would be grab that dual 10" setup... and get a good quality 1 ohm class D amp (very important for our little electrical systems... no class a/b plz :) )... then hit me up for a box for your subs :).

The box will make more of a difference than any other change in component.

YamilR · 02-08-2007, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spkrman

The CVR's are one of the most solid entry level woofs, awesome price there, btw.

Lower load means nothing... back in the day when dual voice coils were just coming out... and the hayday of "cheater" amps that wired to very low loads... the "competition" woofers of the day were the lower the better.. yet and still, it was all marketing, but thats the history of where that myth came from.

Now things are very different, the JL 12w7 is available in single 3 ohm coil... by most accounts, that would mean its junk... :)

Get a solid amp, get the coils that match the amp... or the other way around. Either way it'll work great.

My suggestion would be grab that dual 10" setup... and get a good quality 1 ohm class D amp (very important for our little electrical systems... no class a/b plz :) )... then hit me up for a box for your subs :).

The box will make more of a difference than any other change in component.

Think this would work?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ks1mUDM...20&I=206ZX7501

07typeS · 02-07-2007, 10:18 PM

yea i have the 12" comp cvr in dual 4 ohm.......im only runnin about 125 watts rms to each coil and it sounds pretty good......would sound best with a full 200 watts to each coil....

but anyways im very happy with the sound

magoo_lc1 · 02-07-2007, 11:44 PM

Hey spkrman why not class a/b? Just wondeing. Pure class a is very rare in the amp world. I used to compete with the cheater stuff back in the day i was a iasca and usac champ in the 0-150 watt class and my phoenix gold was putting about 1000 watts at half ohm. I still have a mcintosh and monolithic. Monolithic is a very small and very very high qualit amp. The only problem is since its one of the only pure class a ive ever seen it runs hot at even idle and a 25x2 pulls about 50 amps.

Back on topic kickers have always been decent subs. If you dont want to pound the car apart get one sub. With the transfer function of a hatch your going to get about 3db with a additional sub.

twixt · 02-08-2007, 12:14 AM

those subs kickass in a good sealed box.

spkrman · 02-09-2007, 02:23 AM

you'll want a 1 ohm amp with those dual 4 ohm woofers.

and I'd say the zx750 would work great, although you can get that power for cheaper.

YamilR · 02-09-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spkrman

you'll want a 1 ohm amp with those dual 4 ohm woofers.

and I'd say the zx750 would work great, although you can get that power for cheaper.

Crazy that I could get the same Amp a LOT cheaper on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/06-NEW-KICKER-ZX...QQcmdZViewItem

ChinoCharles · 02-09-2007, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YamilR

Crazy that I could get the same Amp a LOT cheaper on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/06-NEW-KICKER-ZX...QQcmdZViewItem

That generally goes for all car audio equipment. As compared to Ebay, Crutchfield is a fortune.

I got my head unit in 2003 for $300 shipped. That was $100 or more off of every other price I found.

bigsky2 · 02-09-2007, 07:06 PM

Just be careful with eBay and certain components.

There's a lot of fake Focal Polyglass, K2P, and Access speakers on eBay...

02-07-2007, 05:51 AM	#1
YamilR View User's Garage Drives: Absolutely Red Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 570	Kicker CompVR 05CVR104 Crutchfield has this subs buy one get one free. Are they any good? I've never had a sound system in my car so this would be my first experience. I noticed that they come in 2 or 4 ohms, whats the difference? http://www.crutchfield.com/S-2smTy15...0&I=2065C10VR4

02-07-2007, 10:18 PM	#6
07typeS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 White Toyota Yaris Type S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 439	yea i have the 12" comp cvr in dual 4 ohm.......im only runnin about 125 watts rms to each coil and it sounds pretty good......would sound best with a full 200 watts to each coil.... but anyways im very happy with the sound __________________ TRD Springs w/ KYB Struts and Shocks, Custom CAI w/ K&N filter and pre filter wrap, Weapon R Header, Stock 15 inch alloys, Dezod Performance pads, Tanabe Front Strut Bar, 35% front door Tint and 20% Rear doors back Tint, De-Badged Ass, Custom painted flat black interior, Pioneer deh-p6700bt w/ IPOD hookup, Infinity components up front with custom mounted tweeter, Inifinity 6x9's out back, 1 12" kicker comp cvr........

02-07-2007, 11:44 PM	#7
magoo_lc1 Drives: honda civic hatch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missouri Posts: 144	Hey spkrman why not class a/b? Just wondeing. Pure class a is very rare in the amp world. I used to compete with the cheater stuff back in the day i was a iasca and usac champ in the 0-150 watt class and my phoenix gold was putting about 1000 watts at half ohm. I still have a mcintosh and monolithic. Monolithic is a very small and very very high qualit amp. The only problem is since its one of the only pure class a ive ever seen it runs hot at even idle and a 25x2 pulls about 50 amps. Back on topic kickers have always been decent subs. If you dont want to pound the car apart get one sub. With the transfer function of a hatch your going to get about 3db with a additional sub. __________________ 91 SE-R. R.I.P old freind The influence of peers on individual behavior illustrates the seductive power of conformity And, I don't mind at all being looked down upon by purists. Indeed I don't mind at all being looked down upon by those whom I do not look up to at

02-09-2007, 07:06 PM	#12
bigsky2 Cousin Vitz View User's Garage Drives: Yaris RS 5DR / Vitz RS wannabe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,082	Just be careful with eBay and certain components. There's a lot of fake Focal Polyglass, K2P, and Access speakers on eBay... __________________ 2007 Yaris RS Hatchback Black Sand Pearl 5DR MT DIY Speaker Spacer/Bracket Template for Yaris Hatchback http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1930

02-07-2007, 02:02 PM	#2
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I haven't heard a CVR since about 2002, so I don't know about the newer versions, but back then those suckers pumped. Great economy sub. I dont know much about impedence when it comes to woofers... I think how this works is that the lower the number, the better the sub. A 1 ohm stable subwoofer will usually cost an arm and a leg. Spkrman will be all over this one.

02-07-2007, 04:42 PM	#3
JustYYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Blazing Blue Hatch M/T Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Spencer, NY Posts: 61	A subwoofer's electrical impedence usually does not have any impact on the quality of the subwoofer. The incidence of dual 2 ohm is typically lower than a 4 ohm subwoofer, I still think seeing a lower ohm version subwoofer isn't a good indication if the woofer is a quality speaker. Although I haven't heard that particular woofer, I have heard some of kicker's subwoofers in the past and have been pleased by their bass. I know some of the comps used to be free air capable, I'm not sure if that's still the case. Overall, if you get a product from Kicker, even a low product, you shouldnt' be disapointed. That being said, the old saying still applies... you get what you pay for.

02-07-2007, 10:14 PM	#4
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	The CVR's are one of the most solid entry level woofs, awesome price there, btw. Lower load means nothing... back in the day when dual voice coils were just coming out... and the hayday of "cheater" amps that wired to very low loads... the "competition" woofers of the day were the lower the better.. yet and still, it was all marketing, but thats the history of where that myth came from. Now things are very different, the JL 12w7 is available in single 3 ohm coil... by most accounts, that would mean its junk... :) Get a solid amp, get the coils that match the amp... or the other way around. Either way it'll work great. My suggestion would be grab that dual 10" setup... and get a good quality 1 ohm class D amp (very important for our little electrical systems... no class a/b plz :) )... then hit me up for a box for your subs :). The box will make more of a difference than any other change in component.

02-08-2007, 12:14 AM	#8
twixt Drives: 07 LB,04&06 ninja 636 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 135	those subs kickass in a good sealed box.

02-09-2007, 02:23 AM	#9
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	you'll want a 1 ohm amp with those dual 4 ohm woofers. and I'd say the zx750 would work great, although you can get that power for cheaper.