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Old 03-04-2007, 09:51 AM   #1
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New Yaris !

Hey guys,

Just got my Yaris, its a meteorite metallic. I wanted the blazing blue, but the sales manger went nuts on me and told me take this car home now for -200 invoice or wait 6 weeks for the blue and for more money, they won! I hate those guys, lol.

I done my home work, well i hope so. Please check my data for any errors and better ideas.

My stock wheels are 15" steel, tires-P185/60r15 84T, Bridge Stone.
I am guessing wheels weight at 16 lbs and tires 17 lbs.

My new rims are Sportmax 001 weight in at 20.5 lbs.

New tires are Falken Ziex Ze 512, 205/40R17 weight in at 17.6 lbs.

Stock weight is 33 lbs total.
New setup comes in at 38.1 lbs total.

Does the 5.1 Lbs make a big difference ?
I try going to 16" wheels but it only lower it by 3 lbs.
Also i will be installing NF210 springs.
Anyone see anything wrong with my setup?
Thank you guys, your insight is greatly appreciated.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:15 AM   #2
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It will be fine. You may notice a very slight performance difference but the tradeoff for better handling will be well worth it.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:12 PM   #3
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You need TRD shocks . Your stock shocks will NOT last very long . The stock shocks were designed for a certain amount of "travel" . When you put in new springs , you lessen the amount of travel . TRD shocks are valved differently ( more pressure ) to accomodate the drop in ride height .

If ya really want to save weight try Konig Heliums or Feathers . They come in 15x6.5 or try SSR's Comps (for gangsta's only :) ) Also if ya really want to save weight AMS has a 9 lb battery :) look under the photos page for Coryn and Yaris Rules for pics
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:43 PM   #4
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When you put in new springs , you lessen the amount of travel.
Doesn't cutting the bump-stops, put the amount of travel back to normal?
If your new springs drops by 1 inch then cut off 1 inch off the bump-stops.

So far everything I have heard, this is the correct way to do it, unless i get corrected.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:26 PM   #5
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Doesn't cutting the bump-stops, put the amount of travel back to normal?
If your new springs drops by 1 inch then cut off 1 inch off the bump-stops.

So far everything I have heard, this is the correct way to do it, unless i get corrected.
Your correct! The NF210 are soft enough with little drop so the stock shocks should last as most of the travel is maintained. I have NF210's with the bump stop cut 1 1/4 inch and am riding on 17x7 (38 offset) with 205/40/17. Total weight is 42 lbs./wheel but I loved the wheels. Performance loss is minimal (like it was ever there to begin with), but handling is vastly improved. You'll be good to go, Congrats on your purchase!
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:57 PM   #6
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Yeah cutting the bumpstop works ... temporarily . The shocks will still wear out prematurely . The stock shocks are not valved stiff enough to keep the car off the bumpstops when lowered . The car is not made to ride on the bumpstops . Also cutting the bumpstops takes the shocks out of the effective range . That is why they will wear quicker . When your car starts to bounce , it will be time to change the shocks .
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:20 PM   #7
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Yarisagos - don't try to understand - yet. Just be content with the fact that if cutting the bumpstops was all you had to do, they wouldn't need to sell shocks for lowered springs.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:40 PM   #8
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Yarisagos - don't try to understand - yet. Just be content with the fact that if cutting the bumpstops was all you had to do, they wouldn't need to sell shocks for lowered springs.
You always find something forsale, something better, something you must have, and something you need.
The fun part is deciding when to buy it and is it worth it.
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Old 03-05-2007, 12:35 AM   #9
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Yarisagos - don't try to understand - yet. Just be content with the fact that if cutting the bumpstops was all you had to do, they wouldn't need to sell shocks for lowered springs.
They don't "need to", the market wants them available. Lowering springs are a performance upgrade. Shocks/struts are a performance upgrade. To be most effective, they should be done together, but, don't ALWAYS need to be. If they HAD to be, why doesn't Tanabe make complimentary shocks for their springs? After all, if what your saying is true, all these aftermarket springs are worthless. The fact is, Tanabes are made to safely be used with the stock shocks, any lower and I agree, new struts/shocks are needed.

My main point is, with this moderate drop, the stock shock/struts will be fine.
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