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T-SportPT · 05-15-2006, 11:59 AM

Idjiit · 05-15-2006, 12:07 PM

Yes please!

Idjiit · 05-15-2006, 12:09 PM

Pretty stupid to bother putting in a cage, and then not have proper 4pt belt placement. In a rollover crash have the shoulder belts at that angle can end up compressing your spine.

SmellyTofu · 05-15-2006, 06:18 PM

Yes, it's a race for upcoming racers and a very "cheap" way to enter motorsports. The Netz Cup is the bottom end of the racing. There is (was I think) an Altezza Cup as well but obviously a little more expensive.

w1ngzer0 · 05-16-2006, 01:01 AM

I like the TRD Vitz. Why? it looks great and sticks to the small wheel base that the Yaris should be sticking with. Not droping giant 17-18's on it.

why? · 05-16-2006, 02:57 AM

I like the way the car looks too, but Idjiit is right, having the belt like that is more likely to kill the driver than help him.

jdgriswald · 05-16-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by why?

I like the way the car looks too, but Idjiit is right, having the belt like that is more likely to kill the driver than help him.

Actually, according to Sabelt's installation notes, that setup while not optimal, would conform to FIA rules. If they are mounted to the rear belt mounting points, the angle wouldn't be any greater than 45° from horizontal plane. Since the cage doesn't have a cross member, then that's the only way to mount them.
Remember, this is just a modified stock Vitz RS.
Harness Mounting notes

Idjiit · 05-16-2006, 11:44 AM

It may conform to FIA rules, but you will not find them mounted like that in any professional racing car.

Calidrifter · 05-17-2006, 09:08 PM

Why do you keep insisting that it should be professional when you already got the definition of the race. And by FIA standards the only safetybelt manufacturer legal is willans which will cost about 800 per seat belt to get. Anyway look at the Vitz cup as an amature track day and then tell me how pro that seems.

Idjiit · 05-17-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Calidrifter

Why do you keep insisting that it should be professional when you already got the definition of the race. And by FIA standards the only safetybelt manufacturer legal is willans which will cost about 800 per seat belt to get. Anyway look at the Vitz cup as an amature track day and then tell me how pro that seems.

Uh, what? Willans makes nice stuff, but what do you mean by "legal"? There are plenty of FIA-sanctioned events with cars that are not using Willans.

I'm harping on this because a lot of dumb kids end up putting in belts like this not realizing that it can actually endanger their lives. Just trying to get the word out that if you want to do things properly, you don't want your belt at a 45 degree angle. If you're just throwing them in for an Auto-X where you want to be pinned to the seat, fine. But for a daily driver they can actually be more dangerous than a normal belt.

Calidrifter · 05-17-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Idjiit

Uh, what? Willans makes nice stuff, but what do you mean by "legal"? There are plenty of FIA-sanctioned events with cars that are not using Willans.

I'm harping on this because a lot of dumb kids end up putting in belts like this not realizing that it can actually endanger their lives. Just trying to get the word out that if you want to do things properly, you don't want your belt at a 45 degree angle. If you're just throwing them in for an Auto-X where you want to be pinned to the seat, fine. But for a daily driver they can actually be more dangerous than a normal belt.

Well on the Willans that was the info I got off the FIA site but it was a while back I assume things have changed since I last looked up the rules, I was just saying that that was the only safety manufacturer that FIA had appointed as 'a legal safetybelt.'

As for the young and dumb kids doing this I totally agree with you. Especially since here in So Cal I see it all the time. Hell I have even stopped a couple of people to tell them that there belts could possibly kill them.

Also I think that thats the reason why they left the factory belts in the car so that they could use it for daily driving.

WorldPax · 09-11-2006, 09:57 PM

45 deg is OK. The spine compression problem happens when you get more than 45 deg. Like running the belt through the seat and then straight to the floor (ouch). I won't bother with the semantic argument as to what is or is not a "racecar".

johnnyfive · 09-12-2006, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WorldPax

45 deg is OK. The spine compression problem happens when you get more than 45 deg. Like running the belt through the seat and then straight to the floor (ouch). I won't bother with the semantic argument as to what is or is not a "racecar".

not claiming a fact, but i thought that in a 4/5 point harness the belts are to go back, and down...atlest that is what jessie told me on extreeme 4X4 ;)

maybe i am ignorante to listen to a hot girl welding?

WorldPax · 09-12-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyfive

not claiming a fact, but i thought that in a 4/5 point harness the belts are to go back, and down...atlest that is what jessie told me on extreeme 4X4 ;)

maybe i am ignorante to listen to a hot girl welding?

The lawyers told her to say that. It's easier for her to just say "don't do it" in the limited amount of time she has.

mikeukrainetz · 09-11-2006, 11:40 PM

I cant believe anyone can use 'race' and 'Yaris' in the same sentence; the same group that either calls things done to this car 'rice' or 'econobox' and questions the motives or validity of aftermarket parts. Its hilarious.

thebarber · 09-13-2006, 11:09 AM

looks good...not feeling the back bumper though

i love the gauge cluster

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Idjiit 5 Stars, Bitches Drives: Prius, Silver Yaris Liftback Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Holly Springs, NC Posts: 451	Pretty stupid to bother putting in a cage, and then not have proper 4pt belt placement. In a rollover crash have the shoulder belts at that angle can end up compressing your spine.

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SmellyTofu 好多人& Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 264	Yes, it's a race for upcoming racers and a very "cheap" way to enter motorsports. The Netz Cup is the bottom end of the racing. There is (was I think) an Altezza Cup as well but obviously a little more expensive.

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w1ngzer0 Drives: Subaru Impreza Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 73	I like the TRD Vitz. Why? it looks great and sticks to the small wheel base that the Yaris should be sticking with. Not droping giant 17-18's on it.

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05-17-2006, 09:08 PM	#9
Calidrifter Drives: 1997 Nissan 240sx Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chatsworth and Fontana Posts: 29	Why do you keep insisting that it should be professional when you already got the definition of the race. And by FIA standards the only safetybelt manufacturer legal is willans which will cost about 800 per seat belt to get. Anyway look at the Vitz cup as an amature track day and then tell me how pro that seems.

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WorldPax Drives: 00 Miata LS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 2	45 deg is OK. The spine compression problem happens when you get more than 45 deg. Like running the belt through the seat and then straight to the floor (ouch). I won't bother with the semantic argument as to what is or is not a "racecar".

09-11-2006, 11:40 PM	#15
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