Poll: Which FULLy synthetic oil do you use? - Page 6 - Toyota Yaris Forums

41magmag41 · 04-02-2009, 02:35 PM

As long as you are doing regular interval oil changes within the guidelines of the manufacturer, you will be alright...

Couldn't have said it any better. I've driven most of my vehicles to the 150000 mile mark and all ran as good as the day I bought them. My point was why increase the cost of operation with this vehicle when if you follow Toyota's guidelines she in all probability will go 200,000 with little or no work other than routine maintenence. Do what works for you and gets your girl to the 200,000 plus mark without added expense.

ka0sx · 04-02-2009, 03:10 PM

Val. full synth 5-20.
I have been using this for years, I can not atest to any of the other ones since I dont use them. But going from regular to full synth is a big difference.

toad · 04-02-2009, 03:13 PM

just put in some pennzoil platinum 5w-30. hope to see a big difference from the dino oil!

1stToyota · 04-02-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

41magmag41

Do what works best for you. What we are seeing in this thread is a lot of opinion and individual results, but I have yet to see any links to verified studies not sponsored by a particular oil company. There seems to be a lot of badmouthing of Mobile-1, but I've used it for years and have yet to have any engine damage because of it. I am not saying it is the best oil out there, it probably isn't; but it also isn't as bad as some claim. And there are a lot of other variables that factor into increased MPG results, not all associated with oil.

As long as you are doing regular interval oil changes within the guidelines of the manufacturer, you will be alright...

But you still prefer Mobil-1 to Mobil's conventional oil, correct? I think that's sort of what 41magmag41 was getting at; why synthetic over conventional.

Stoln · 04-02-2009, 04:40 PM

I use Mobile 1. If it comes as a factory fill on Corvettes than it is good enough for my Camaro and Yaris

1stToyota · 04-02-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by toad

just put in some pennzoil platinum 5w-30. hope to see a big difference from the dino oil!

I didn't see any noticable improvement in fuel economy when I switched to synthetic. But I do my own service, plus Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 at 3.99 (O'Reilly's) a quart it's too good of a deal to pass on.

Giobatera · 04-02-2009, 05:47 PM

For those of you who know any advance auto part store, they are having this special thru April 22nd. 5 Quarts of CASTROL Full Synthetic Motor Oil AND a K&N Performance Oil Filter for $24.99 plus applicable taxes. I'm not sure if it's nationwide. I leave in south florida and they are having the special here. I encorage those who want to find out more, to check their website and check by putting your zip code.
Here is the link
http://advanceauto.shoplocal.com/adv...26ViewMode%3d0
I hope this helps!

TheSilkySmooth · 04-03-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Altitude

I would never take automotive advice from someone who shamelessly admits to KILLING all of his cars engines in the past five years...

The man clearly doesn't know how to care for a car or its engine.

I am an Automotive component engineer and (past life) NIASE Master tech and race engine builder. We had a bad spate of Denso filters that were killing both suzuki and toyota engines. Our Suzuki and 2 toyotas use the same filter. The Toyota Rav was serviced by Toyota with genuine toyota motor oil and Toyota filters at under 5000 intervals. The vehicles are also not garaged in the winter. Thinking about installing block heater the coming winter.

TheSilkySmooth · 04-03-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by toad

just put in some pennzoil platinum 5w-30. hope to see a big difference from the dino oil!

It is dino oil, but its been severe hydroprocessed. But it's suppose to be one of the best grpIII oils out there as is Valvoline Synpower. Let us know how it runs!

TheSilkySmooth · 04-03-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Since you have this thing against what you consider to be fakes, funny that you'd pick blue cap Amsoil...you're meaning the XL series? It's group III and ACEA A1/B1 nothing too special about that.

No, Ist, its the 10W-30 PAO base meat-and-potatoes product. The dealer doesnt sell amsoil anymore so I just put some Valvoline grpIII/IV Synpower 10W-30 in for the meantime. I hear the Amsoil doesnt have API SM/SL certification.
On the grpIII - I just havent had any formula work well for me YET. And I jumped on that ISO syn bandwagon with the Chevron Process when it first came out. Good luck with the P-Platinum its had really good UOAs as has V-Synpower. It's just Mobil-1 that has high iron and Cu consistently and failes to meet its API certs down the road. Funny that Mobil Clean 5000 is a good sleeper Dino oil.

TheSilkySmooth · 04-04-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giobatera

For those of you who know any advance auto part store, they are having this special thru April 22nd. 5 Quarts of CASTROL Full Synthetic Motor Oil AND a K&N Performance Oil Filter for $24.99 plus applicable taxes.
I hope this helps!

Isnt the K&N filter just a STP with a nut welded on the bottom? A company "Champion Labs" make the Bosch and Mobil-1 and K&N and Delco and most the no-name brands like Supertech for wallmart. That is a good deal you talk about, but I wouldnt pay over 10-$ for a 4$ filter with K&N's name on it. Just remeber Castrol Syntec is not real synthetic oil, It called group III severe hydroprocessed. If you want the real stuff you need Motul 300v, or Total Quartz Future 9000.

1stToyota · 04-04-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

No, Ist, its the 10W-30 PAO base meat-and-potatoes product. The dealer doesnt sell amsoil anymore so I just put some Valvoline grpIII/IV Synpower 10W-30 in for the meantime. I hear the Amsoil doesnt have API SM/SL certification.
On the grpIII - I just havent had any formula work well for me YET. And I jumped on that ISO syn bandwagon with the Chevron Process when it first came out. Good luck with the P-Platinum its had really good UOAs as has V-Synpower. It's just Mobil-1 that has high iron and Cu consistently and failes to meet its API certs down the road. Funny that Mobil Clean 5000 is a good sleeper Dino oil.

Amsoil does have API certification. Like I said, it's only on their XL series, which is API on every XL grade, and XL is ACEA A1/B1, and like I also said, it's group III. I posted the link from their site where it states they went group III to keep it competitive, pricewise, so they could offer API approved oil to the market. I think I did see a blue topped 10w30, and yes, it wasn't certified, and not group III, good for 25K, guessing A4/B4.

TheSilkySmooth · 04-06-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Amsoil does have API certification. Like I said, it's only on their XL series, which is API on every XL grade, and XL is ACEA A1/B1, and like I also said, it's group III. I posted the link from their site where it states they went group III to keep it competitive, pricewise, so they could offer API approved oil to the market. I think I did see a blue topped 10w30, and yes, it wasn't certified, and not group III, good for 25K, guessing A4/B4.

Ahh gotcha on the XL. I wasnt looking at the grpiii so I didnt read into it much. Here is a question I'm not fully clear on: Does Toyota warranty require API cert or is this just a recommendation/guidance? I'm assuming the emission warranty requires the use of low saps so you have to stay with an SL/SM rating. But certification IDK ....

Giobatera · 04-06-2009, 01:12 PM

It's all good bro! For the price, I still think is a good deal, specially, nowadays, that EVERYBODY or at least most people are doing everything to save a buck or two!

1stToyota · 04-06-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Ahh gotcha on the XL. I wasnt looking at the grpiii so I didnt read into it much. Here is a question I'm not fully clear on: Does Toyota warranty require API cert or is this just a recommendation/guidance? I'm assuming the emission warranty requires the use of low saps so you have to stay with an SL/SM rating. But certification IDK ....

I thought it was pretty much common knowledge for the last 15 years or so that the oil had to be API approved, here in the U.S. ...and that's sort of been the problem at most of the forums I've been at over the last few years, a lot of people want to run the better oils, but they don't always have the API approval stamp on the front label.

uncleyaris · 04-07-2009, 08:41 PM

Where's Asmoil on that list?

ozmdd · 04-07-2009, 10:32 PM

Q-Horsepower. Not on the list, but qualifies for the highest spec in the EU. Can't remember the alphabet soup/number that was used, but its different from API and SAE ratings.

road_hog · 04-09-2009, 10:01 AM

Redline in my 09 Yaris andm Mobil1 15000mi extended drain oil in my 300 000mi Echo.

View Poll Results: Which Fully Synthetic Motor oil do u use?
Mobil One	78	48.75%
Castro Synthec	12	7.50%
Royal Purple	21	13.13%
Vavloline	13	8.13%
Redline	3	1.88%
Motul	7	4.38%
Toyota Factory Synthetic	8	5.00%
PennZoil	12	7.50%
Penrite	0	0%
Generic(Exxon,Shell) or Other	12	7.50%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

04-02-2009, 05:47 PM	#97
Giobatera View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 246	For those of you who know any advance auto part store, they are having this special thru April 22nd. 5 Quarts of CASTROL Full Synthetic Motor Oil AND a K&N Performance Oil Filter for $24.99 plus applicable taxes. I'm not sure if it's nationwide. I leave in south florida and they are having the special here. I encorage those who want to find out more, to check their website and check by putting your zip code. Here is the link http://advanceauto.shoplocal.com/adv...26ViewMode%3d0 I hope this helps! __________________ GioBatera

04-06-2009, 01:12 PM	#104
Giobatera View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 246	It's all good bro! For the price, I still think is a good deal, specially, nowadays, that EVERYBODY or at least most people are doing everything to save a buck or two! __________________ GioBatera

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04-02-2009, 02:35 PM	#91
41magmag41 Drives: Loaded 2007 mica silver sedan Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New hampshire Posts: 226	As long as you are doing regular interval oil changes within the guidelines of the manufacturer, you will be alright... Couldn't have said it any better. I've driven most of my vehicles to the 150000 mile mark and all ran as good as the day I bought them. My point was why increase the cost of operation with this vehicle when if you follow Toyota's guidelines she in all probability will go 200,000 with little or no work other than routine maintenence. Do what works for you and gets your girl to the 200,000 plus mark without added expense.

04-02-2009, 03:10 PM	#92
ka0sx Drives: bone f*ing stock Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA east bay Posts: 234	Val. full synth 5-20. I have been using this for years, I can not atest to any of the other ones since I dont use them. But going from regular to full synth is a big difference.

04-02-2009, 03:13 PM	#93
toad Drives: street-legal go-kart Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bowser's castle Posts: 627	just put in some pennzoil platinum 5w-30. hope to see a big difference from the dino oil!

04-02-2009, 04:40 PM	#95
Stoln Drives: 2007 5 Door Hatch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 61	I use Mobile 1. If it comes as a factory fill on Corvettes than it is good enough for my Camaro and Yaris

04-07-2009, 08:41 PM	#106
uncleyaris View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Bayou Blue!!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,523	Where's Asmoil on that list?

04-07-2009, 10:32 PM	#107
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	Q-Horsepower. Not on the list, but qualifies for the highest spec in the EU. Can't remember the alphabet soup/number that was used, but its different from API and SAE ratings.

04-09-2009, 10:01 AM	#108
road_hog Drives: 09 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 5	Redline in my 09 Yaris andm Mobil1 15000mi extended drain oil in my 300 000mi Echo.