Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[sqcomp]

MWAHAHA! These hornblaster horns have netted me one middle finger, and two people ducking like they were being shot at. I also had most people looking AROUND not believing that a Yaris was putting out a sound THAT loud. They were looking for the train in the parking lot...

I won't mess around with them much more (as in prank on people). I had my 15 minutes of fun. These are actually to wake people up when they try to run me off the road...like what happened to me two weeks ago.

I'll be cleaning the air line run up and fitting nicer right angles in with more pipe. I'll get it to look a lot cleaner over the next few months.

[derickveliz2]

Sqcomp That's awesome! Now you are the loudest Yaris in the US, Inside and Outside!

Now I could use some of that in the winter to clear the snow in my driveway! LOL

D.

[derickveliz2]

So here is where the I6SW is for now:

This new option, I think it's a keeper with a smaller foot print and just above the 0.35 cubic feet of internal air, the woofer facing the passenger's side and a straight vent towards the fire-wall:







Some spray 3M super 77 and fleece:











Last night I did 2 more layers on the vertical side and trimmed the edges, so far is gaining weight.

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[sqcomp]

D,

Over the next few months I'll be re-fitting the air lines with better American pneumatic fittings versus the cheap Chinese pieces they gave me. I'll be re-plumbing the direction of the lines...It'll be a bit better and less stressful on the lines.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

Over the next few months I'll be re-fitting the air lines with better American pneumatic fittings versus the cheap Chinese pieces they gave me. I'll be re-plumbing the direction of the lines...It'll be a bit better and less stressful on the lines.

How is your new a-pillar project doing?

I think I would like to get a pair of used L3 and experiment a little bit in the kick panels or just move the HL-70 down there, seems that the PLDs work better down there.

Any thoughts?

D.

[sqcomp]

It's very possible if you're using the mids in the doors the kicks would be a nice location. If you get some L3s, my suggestion is to see if you can work your way into the L3SEs. I know that they're a bit expensive but I'll tell you what, the difference between my L4 and the L4SEs was remarkable.

I'm working on the tweeter placement at this point for myself. I'm not in a hurry...yet. I'm also planning a BIG IASCA competition for next year.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

It's very possible if you're using the mids in the doors the kicks would be a nice location. If you get some L3s, my suggestion is to see if you can work your way into the L3SEs. I know that they're a bit expensive but I'll tell you what, the difference between my L4 and the L4SEs was remarkable.

I'm working on the tweeter placement at this point for myself. I'm not in a hurry...yet. I'm also planning a BIG IASCA competition for next year.

Mmm sounds like a Christmas Project L3SEs here we go (soon/someday).


and just to clarify your sentece: "It's very possible if you're using the LOWS in the doors the MIDS in the kicks would be a nice location."

I'm really considering moving the mids to the kicks, PLDs will make more sence (now I understand) and will make my stage wider and push further in the direction of the hood, and be able to play them as a "point source" (from 150K and up) would benefit towards a better image that I have now.

After running my set up for more than 5,000 miles I can tell that having the ability to change from a 2 way to a 3 way (active) in less than 10 seconds (Mute Mids, cross tweeters at 4K, move Lows up to 4K) I can tell the Mids will add some good benefit down there, some times I even can't tell the difference if my Mids are on or not. A slightly difference between 2 and 3 way for me right now is that in 2 way configuration my stage is wider, and when performing in a 3 way highs are quite sharper and after a while my ears get tired. (my commute is over 200 miles/day, so lot's of time to play around)

"I'm wondering what Sqcomp is trying to do with his tweeters? very curious."

D.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

Derick,

How is your sub project progressing?

It's coming quiet well, besides that I've been very busy with family and other work related issues, I have some pictures of the building process that will post soon, it's getting thick and heavy I would like at least 7 layers of glass, right now I'm up to 4. I really would like to have some more time and get it done rather quickly to start playing with the kicks for the Mids. I was thinking on doing a simple baffle that I could use for the HL-70 that I own but provide the space to swap for the L3(SE's or not) in the near future.

Thanks for asking, it's nice to have a little push of interest from others so I get exited and find time to work more on this project.

D.

[sqcomp]

D,

You can also kick one of the preouts off on the function screen on your source as well to go two way.

I think that if you do the mids in the kicks and I do the improved A-pillar design, we can compare notes and work out which is best...at least given certain variables.

Oh...and the horns? They pegged out my SPL meter at over 130 dB at 30 feet away. I'm also looking into replacing the horns with some Nathan AirChimes. We'll see what the fundage over the next year looks like. This horn setup is MAGNIFICENT! Totally worth the money.

Also, talk to Scott about some B stock L3SEs. See what he says. If you don't get a good deal, talk to me and I'll figure something out for you.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

You can also kick one of the preouts off on the function screen on your source as well to go two way.

I think that if you do the mids in the kicks and I do the improved A-pillar design, we can compare notes and work out which is best...at least given certain variables.

Oh...and the horns? They pegged out my SPL meter at over 130 dB at 30 feet away. I'm also looking into replacing the horns with some Nathan AirChimes. We'll see what the fundage over the next year looks like. This horn setup is MAGNIFICENT! Totally worth the money.

Also, talk to Scott about some B stock L3SEs. See what he says. If you don't get a good deal, talk to me and I'll figure something out for you.

Yeah, we can do that! I feel very confident and I'm starting to know my limitations and now that I have tried a bunch of configurations I know how to achieve better SQ in a system, and how image, stage and depth creates a front stage.

I'm very curious of what do you have in mind for your new a-pillars! and thanks for asking Scott about the B stock L3SE's, by know I think he knows me. Beside the Mids every other driver I have it's HAT!

Would love to experience the horns, I think I'll put that project in my "to do list" (o:

D.

[derickveliz2]

Sqcomp... do you know what is the name of the song at HAT's home page?

Thanks

D.

[sqcomp]

Gawd...I don't recall. I'll have to ask Scott or poke around our team forum for the answer.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Gawd...I don't recall. I'll have to ask Scott or poke around our team forum for the answer.

Thanks

D.

[derickveliz2]

What about some Spy cam pictures...

Small foot print, not bad at all when I'm seating on the passenger's side!





From Pilot's point of view:




Getting in the car...




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[derickveliz2]

Ok, some building pictures of the mini subbox:





















D.

[sqcomp]

Hopefully this little woofer can give you some output in front.

It won't be as loud as the ID12, that's for sure...

What I'm wondering is, why we didn't do a slot port instead of a tubed port.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Hopefully this little woofer can give you some output in front.
It won't be as loud as the ID12, that's for sure...
What I'm wondering is, why we didn't do a slot port instead of a tubed port.

I understand that the IDQ12 it's much louder, just the fact that physically it's more than twice the size of the I6SW, on the other side you and I know that 4 of this little subs are as good as 2 18's (I know there is a lot going on from point A to point B) but let me try it.

I can feel 2 things over here:

1. You are preparing me for "unsatisfactory results" and that's OK, my install has been improving from trail and error, if I don't like the I6SW I'll get another one and try again, if that's not enough I'll just try some thing else or drive with my IDQ12 up front! I'm ok with that too.

2. Some one is jealous that I'm going to have a sub up front! Just kidding LOL


Why we didn't do a slot port? well because you are too far away, but now that I think about it.... mmm may not be very helpful for one sub the way I have it, but for 2 subs down the floor maybe that's the way to go!

D.

[derickveliz2]

A question for the experts, what is the best way to give the upper skin a solid structure? just keep adding layers of glass?

Here are a couple of shots after 15 O.Z. of resin:








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