iPhone

[ceres]

Originally Posted by kurokoma-kun

I too am a long-time Apple addict, and have been drooling over the iPhone for months too! But I have been bitten often enough by being the "early adopter" that I now tend to wait at least until the bugs are shaken out.

But Bailout has a great point: having to accept AT+T for a service provider! OMG, their logo does not look like the Deathstar for nothing. Evil. Empire. They have already taken over my Cingular service. I cannot believe they are going to be allowed to establish ANOTHER telecommunications monopoly. WTF was the point of breaking up Ma Bell at vast public expense about 30 years ago?

AT&T didn't buy out jack. They were bought a few years ago.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/17/tech.../cingular_att/

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1476

[kurokoma-kun]

Originally Posted by ceres

AT&T didn't buy out jack. They were bought a few years ago.

Thanks ceres, when I said At+T I actually meant SBC and Bell South, owners of Cingular. My point though, was that telecommunications power is being consolidated in the hands of a few, regardless which corporate identity they are currently sporting.

[Nutzoids]

5.5 Hours to go!

[bearda]

I'm a fan of Apple's products, but I'm not really interested in the iPhone.

Don't get me wrong, it seems like a nice little device. I'm sure it has a great interface, and makes doing things that are normally very complex on other smartphones pretty simple. My current prepaid Motorola phone works great, though, and I don't need a lot of fancy features regardless of how easy they are to use.

If it was comparable price-wise to my current phone I'd at least consider it, but I'm not willing to pay that kind of premium when I don't use my cell that often.

[nqd]

Originally Posted by death is my gift

It does seem pretty sweet but I'm perfectly happy with my Sidekick 3.

sidekick 3 rocks!!! but i wanna get the HTC wing

[sherryberry]

it looks nice and all but I don't have any ways of justifying the hefty price tag. Besides, it's always better to wait for 2nd or 3rd generation when it comes to electronics (esp. from apple)

[joey1320]

great looking phone but too much money for me. i won't be able to justify a $600 phone plus the $60 monthly charge on top of your current payments.

thats what my brother was quoted when he went to see the phone yesterday. too much. but if you got the money and thats not an issue go for it.

[joey1320]

Originally Posted by sherryberry

it looks nice and all but I don't have any ways of justifying the hefty price tag. Besides, it's always better to wait for 2nd or 3rd generation when it comes to electronics (esp. from apple)

theres already talks of the iphone2 coming out next year by spring(a friend of mineworks for at&t) and he told us is gonna be a lot better than the current iphone.

[slvryaris]

This website always helps me out before I buy new phones I see if people think it is a piece of poo before I buy. Here are some reviews of the IPhone.

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/use...php?phone=1110

[Shroomster]

does the Iphone have that same screen as the ipod that once it's in your pocket you've placed millions of scratches on it?

I've got my reasons as to Why I don't want one:

- dunno what expandable memory it uses (if any, the previous link said it comes with only 4gb & 8gb which is max for flash memory but come on it's an ipod too not a shuffle or a mini)
- you must purchase an apple sim card
- you can only use bluetooth headsets (NO COMPUTER LINKING) (probably will let you link to other phones)
- for those of us in metro areas where 3g is available it'd be nice as all phones with 3g switch down when it's not available to Edge or gprs is it?
- the battery is internal
- att doesn't offer any current cusomters discounts or anything
- you have to pay an Iphone fee on top of your regular bill? WTF?
- you can only video conference with other iphones...if you're waiting in line for the iphone, might as well get to know your other apple friends cuz they;ll be the only reason to get the featuer, but you still have to pay for the conferencing even if you don't use it..



only positive (in my eyes) is that it has a output jack

[nebulight]

- dunno what expandable memory it uses (if any, the previous link said it comes with only 4gb & 8gb which is max for flash memory but come on it's an ipod too not a shuffle or a mini)

iPod nano is the most popular model, topping out at 8gb. It's the most memory on any phone.

- you must purchase an apple sim card

Not true, it comes loaded with a newer style sim, but if you want, if you have a newer style sim, you can use it, but why?

- you can only use bluetooth headsets (NO COMPUTER LINKING) (probably will let you link to other phones)

I can count how many times I've used bluetooth to link to my computer on one hand. USB is faster.

- for those of us in metro areas where 3g is available it'd be nice as all phones with 3g switch down when it's not available to Edge or gprs is it?

I see your point, but the other 95% of people don't have 3G, plus 3G data radios are BIG and kill your battery life.

- the battery is internal

Yea, kinda sucks, they should have made the black part removable.

- att doesn't offer any current cusomters discounts or anything

Yea, sucks, but the data plans are built in, and I think the prices are decent.

- you have to pay an Iphone fee on top of your regular bill? WTF?

Not true, 59.99 is what I pay a month, and that gives me 450 minutes, 200SMS, Unlimited Data and visual voicemail.

- you can only video conference with other iphones...if you're waiting in line for the iphone, might as well get to know your other apple friends cuz they;ll be the only reason to get the featuer, but you still have to pay for the conferencing even if you don't use it..

Actually, you can't video conference at all, but you can have a 6 person conference call which is pretty cool.

only positive (in my eyes) is that it has a output jack

People that come in with a negative look aren't going to change. Also, you might want to get your facts straight about the phone before you bash it. I have one now, and by far the best phone I've ever had. Amazing UI is what sold it for me.

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by nebulight

- dunno what expandable memory it uses (if any, the previous link said it comes with only 4gb & 8gb which is max for flash memory but come on it's an ipod too not a shuffle or a mini)

iPod nano is the most popular model, topping out at 8gb. It's the most memory on any phone.

- you must purchase an apple sim card

Not true, it comes loaded with a newer style sim, but if you want, if you have a newer style sim, you can use it, but why?

- you can only use bluetooth headsets (NO COMPUTER LINKING) (probably will let you link to other phones)

I can count how many times I've used bluetooth to link to my computer on one hand. USB is faster.

- for those of us in metro areas where 3g is available it'd be nice as all phones with 3g switch down when it's not available to Edge or gprs is it?

I see your point, but the other 95% of people don't have 3G, plus 3G data radios are BIG and kill your battery life.

- the battery is internal

Yea, kinda sucks, they should have made the black part removable.

- att doesn't offer any current cusomters discounts or anything

Yea, sucks, but the data plans are built in, and I think the prices are decent.

- you have to pay an Iphone fee on top of your regular bill? WTF?

Not true, 59.99 is what I pay a month, and that gives me 450 minutes, 200SMS, Unlimited Data and visual voicemail.

- you can only video conference with other iphones...if you're waiting in line for the iphone, might as well get to know your other apple friends cuz they;ll be the only reason to get the featuer, but you still have to pay for the conferencing even if you don't use it..

Actually, you can't video conference at all, but you can have a 6 person conference call which is pretty cool.

only positive (in my eyes) is that it has a output jack

People that come in with a negative look aren't going to change. Also, you might want to get your facts straight about the phone before you bash it. I have one now, and by far the best phone I've ever had. Amazing UI is what sold it for me.

so when I talked to the at&T reps they were lying to me about having to pay a data service fee? there is one...it's $20...and I'm not bashing it for the sake of bashing it, I'm trying to make people who see this phone as the coming of the messiah of phones see it for what it is...an ipod with a phone accessory, you know like that camera attatchment you can get for the ipod?

people have been hacking their ipods forever, putting whole new Os and programs on them so possibly someone will have an iphone and make it work the way it should...I dunno...

anyways the video conferecing is what i meant but you can only do it with people who have an iphone...did everyone you know who you have to conference with get one?

my problem with the memory isn't the fact it comes with 8gb..it's the fAct that it is not expandable, and or it's not a harddrive platform. it's not the only phone that you can get 8gb with..once sony gets the 8gb memory pro duo all SE phones capable will be capable...
why pay so much and get only minimal video usage and minimal mp3 and data storage?

I also don't like the fact that greed, commercialism and advertising blitzes help create this kind of crap >>>>> $21 million iPhone <<<LINK

[sherryberry]

When has ipod ever had an expandable memory? You get what they give you and that's it. As far as I remember, I never had expandable memory with my ipod that doesn't work anymore.

The $20 additional is for existing customers only to add to their current plan. the $60 is for new customers. $20 gives existing customers the data, visual voicemail, 200 sms, etc. By the way, what is this visual voicemail anyway?

And I've read somewhere that 3G could have been put in.. and in areas w/o 3G, it can easily switch over to EDGE. But I think that would be more expensive.

[nebulight]

Originally Posted by sherryberry

When has ipod ever had an expandable memory? You get what they give you and that's it. As far as I remember, I never had expandable memory with my ipod that doesn't work anymore.

The $20 additional is for existing customers only to add to their current plan. the $60 is for new customers. $20 gives existing customers the data, visual voicemail, 200 sms, etc. By the way, what is this visual voicemail anyway?

And I've read somewhere that 3G could have been put in.. and in areas w/o 3G, it can easily switch over to EDGE. But I think that would be more expensive.

You are correct about the plans. The visual voice mail is a menu that will display your voice mail messages so you can pick just the one message you want to listen to. So if you have 12 voicemails and want to listen to number 11, you don't have to listen to the ten before it – you just click on that message, and you can rewind it with a slider.

3G radios are big time killers have better life. The edge speeds are slow, but not too bad for basic stuff. When I'm on the go, the Edge is enough. Most places have WiFi anyway.

[slvryaris]

There are some dumb people in our world.....Watch this.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/...d=1.1.1&sflg=1

[sherryberry]

HAHAHAHAHA... great video slvryaris. That lady was quite dumb but hey, I'd sure like to be that kid. :)

[Blenjar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68FqxGkc_1w

lol

-- Blen

[Capagotks]

Originally Posted by BailOut

That is uglier, more proprietary, twice as expensive, less useful and harder on a battery than my trusty Palm TX. Sure, the TX isn't a phone, but that's what my Razr is for, and if I really wanted both in one unit I would just get a Treo, and still be much better off than with an iPhone.

Ive got a TX, but im actually getting sick of it. the screen doesnt calibrate properly with a screen protector, doesnt work with vista properly (have to sync over wireless) javascript doesnt work, email doesnt work (i fixed it now its f*ed again) and i was listening to music and i uninstalled the player (trial) and now its stuck playing the one song in the background