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Old 12-22-2008, 04:21 PM   #73
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Y.S. , he sent me a private message telling me to remove a post I made in one of his THREADS . He wants all the glory . To think these are the people who are MODERATORS and use it as leverage and attack other members with insults . Reminds of a certain ADMINISTARTION for the past 8 years .
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:39 PM   #74
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If over-inflation wasn't ONLY about increased fuel economy, we'd be seeing actual real world test results with handling, braking, etc..., comparing the results of tires that have normal pressure with those with double pressure, not just fuel economy increases, or do the 60p.s.i.ers and the websites they go to consider *safe* being a tire that didn't blow out? I'd like to see some real test results of two cars being track test against each other. I'm betting the car with over-inflated will come in 2nd in every catagory except fuel economy.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:47 PM   #75
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If over-inflation wasn't ONLY about increased fuel economy, we'd be seeing actual real world test results with handling, braking, etc..., comparing the results of tires that have normal pressure with those with double pressure, not just fuel economy increases, or do the 60p.s.i.ers and the websites they go to consider *safe* being a tire that didn't blow out? I'd like to see some real test results of two cars being track test against each other. I'm betting the car with over-inflated will come in 2nd in every catagory except fuel economy.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:20 PM   #76
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What ? PLAN AHEAD ! There's no planning for a deer that decides to bolt out in front or into the side of your vehicle from over an embankment or from thick brush / wooded area . This has to be the dumbest ( ) thing stated on this topic so far .
I agree with these comments 100%. Can't believe some people's logic. I guess some posters are one with nature....
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:27 PM   #77
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Panic stops do not happen to those that pay attention on the road and plan ahead. This holds true even if your fellow drivers fail to do so. On the few occasions that I have needed to brake any harder than usual I experienced no difficulty whatsoever at 60 PSI.

As for deer, yes, I run into them on the roads here, too. Also coyotes, quail, rabbits and the occasional black bear. I have never had difficulty avoiding them.


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There simply is no room in fuel economy discussions for alarmism or "doomism". Please stop with the venom and rhetoric or I will have this thread locked.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:39 PM   #78
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Actually I have a true story about a deer...kind off topic but it shows how deer are in my area. I used to work in a grocery store in high school and I was sacking some groceries on the front end one day. All of a sudden a lady comes runnning in the door screaming bloody murder. She runs towards the back of the store. Well right behind her was a 2 pt buck running into the store also. It ran over to the produce and 2 customers(2 huge guys) tackled it and tied it up. We sold deer corn at the store and kept the bags out on the sidewalk. 2 deer smelt it and came up there to eat it. Then they got spooked and 1 took off back towards the woods. The other one ran towards the door and well you know the rest of the story.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:49 PM   #79
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I don't know why anyone would bother arguing with these "hypermilers," the bottom line is that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong!

I really wonder why these people don't drive a Prius? If they are so dedicated to getting the maximum efficiency out of every drop of gas, then they should select the proper equipment to do so. A Prius with 60+ PSI in it tires and employing those "hypermiler" techniques could get about a bazillion gallons to the mile!

And to my friend in Nacadoches, we both know the dangers of deer in Texas. Maybe we are too stupid not to "plan ahead," or maybe the deer just aren't following the rules! I will ask the next time I see one...

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Old 01-21-2009, 04:51 PM   #80
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I actually used to run 50 psi in my tires just for MPG reasons. And then I hit a deer because I couldn't stop fast enough. Slammed on the brakes and the car just skidded on the road, hardly gripping at all.

Bottom line? I run 32 psi now, what Toyota recommends. Only took $5,000 and the safety of me and my passenger to figure it out.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:57 PM   #81
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40 psi car feels good and when pushed hard I do not see any wear on the sidewalls.
Agreed - for me 40 psi works well for my driving style and the roads I regularly traverse. My overall mpg is 41 so good fuel economy is present as well.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:59 PM   #82
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Agreed - for me 40 psi works well for my driving style and the roads I regularly traverse. My overall mpg is 41 so good fuel economy is present as well.
I run 40 as well, and average 42 on the highway. Not even a HM'r either
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:46 PM   #83
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ryank, what the hell, didn't you PLAN AHEAD?!?

But I am going to see for myself. I just aired up my tires to 40 PSI (my tire pressure sensor light just went off this morning, so I had to check the pressure anyway) and we'll see how it goes. I sure hope I don't find out the hard way that this is a bad decision...

By the way, what is the PSI level that kicks off the air pressure sensor light? All my tires, sans one, were at 32 PSI; and the one that was a bit lower was only 28 PSI. Seems kinda high for the sensors to kick off...

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Old 01-21-2009, 05:53 PM   #84
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ON my wifes CR-V it kicked in at 26 psi. Kind of a good thing. I found a screw in the tire. Without the sensor she might have driven the car until the tire was completely flat.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:07 PM   #85
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I dont think it sets the light based on a specific tire pressure but it compares all 4 pressures and when it senses one tire is a amount lower than the rest is when it sets the light.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:56 PM   #86
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I dont think it sets the light based on a specific tire pressure but it compares all 4 pressures and when it senses one tire is a amount lower than the rest is when it sets the light.
Not true. If it was, your tires could ALL be at 15 psi and the sensor wouldnt go off?!?
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ryank, what the hell, didn't you PLAN AHEAD?!?
Thanks for the laugh

But in all seriousness, if anyone thinks they can avoid an "accident", they're called that for a reason.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:29 AM   #88
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Glad you recognized that as humor, I am sure some people might take it literally! I'm also glad you weren't hurt in that accident, it could have been much worse but I am sure the damage to your beloved Yaris was enough! It would have been for me!

Well, I drove to work with my tires at 40 PSI and I will admit that although it was noticeable, it wasn't that bad. The bumps are a little harsher, but they were already a bit rough with my lower-profile tires. And I don't know if I am getting any better gas mileage going from 32 PSI in my tires to 40; but I keep tab of that info at fill-ups so I will let everyone know my results. I am not going to do anything else different, so I will see how much better the increased tire pressure works.

Stay tuned!

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:49 AM   #89
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From my personal experience, going from 50psi to 32psi, I lost about 2-3 MPG (highway), but the ride is sooo much smoother and the handling (especially in the rain/snow) is 10x better.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:01 PM   #90
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From my personal experience, going from 50psi to 32psi, I lost about 2-3 MPG (highway), but the ride is sooo much smoother and the handling (especially in the rain/snow) is 10x better.
same here with lower p.s.i. , try to keep them hovering around 34 . If you notice harsher ride , car is telling you of the abuse on your suspension as well . Tie rod ends , etc.. Which could / would accelerate the wear on those . Say if part of suspension became damaged under warranty and service center noticed the high tire pressure , they may not honor it . One or few extra m.p.g. not worth it to me .
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