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Old 02-17-2009, 06:55 PM   #19
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they lost a sale in my case

i was all about getting the 5 door S

i cant see trading in my 3 door for another 3 door with some body mods

ohh well

maybe we'll get lucky in 10

thats funny about the XD comment, they said the same thing to me about an XD

i was like hell no, those things look ugly

the yaris has the ability to hit the hot hatch category

the XD looks like it belongs in the zoo

we own 4 cars none of which are auto

just cant do automatic
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:02 PM   #20
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dont blame u for wanting the standard tranny, i wont buy anything else
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:26 PM   #21
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This review of a 2009 seems to indicate a 5sp manual tranny
http://www.auto123.com/en/toyota/yar...&tab=equipment
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:48 PM   #22
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In Canada we have 5 doors and 5 speed manual, I have one. Juste in the USA you don't have








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Old 02-17-2009, 08:49 PM   #23
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The 5 door is what made me start looking at the Yaris again. I stopped in the pouring rain to take another look. When I found out it was auto-only I almost dropped the Yaris from my consideration until we finally decided that we could get by with the three door. So far we haven't missed the extra doors (and my kids like it for some reason), but I definitely would have preferred five. Of course their marketing people will just add my purchase to the column for people who obviously prefer three door models... just like they decided for some stupid reason that us Californians don't want cruise control even though we live in a state with thousands of miles of barren highways.
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Old 02-17-2009, 09:04 PM   #24
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I was talking to my neighbor the other day about the same subject, he's 42 and never driven a manual.
he is not a man.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:22 PM   #25
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i think you can get the 5 door in stick

not just the S

dont quote me on that though
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:33 PM   #26
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we all knew this when it was released. toyota didnt see enough of a market for manuals in the 5door...
xD>yaris 5d
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:03 AM   #27
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Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:25 AM   #28
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Manual all the way. PLus they are cheaper too!!
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:47 AM   #29
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Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.
I would agree

the first thing they said was how about and XD or XB?

they had rows upon rows of XD and XB's but only about 4-6 yari on the lot

i read something that scion sales were way down due to poor marketing

they dropped the bomb hardcore on the new XB design and openly admitted that

The XD has not sold as projected, and i know a ton of scion owners were mad that they are reusing special edition RS colors over and over again.

They put out this ridiculous concept car the flops hardcore

when scion came out on the market the 1st gen XA and XB were awesome

totally different option! now its like they lost there way

i was really hoping they would bring the open deck Bb over or the new gen Bb but we get this monstrosity car and driver dubbed the "kids mini van"

it grinds my gears about the 5 door

its kinda like toyota telling you go but a fit if you want 5 spd
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:55 AM   #30
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I hate that all the manual drivers are going away. More and more I run into drivers who are either surprised that I can drive stick, or wishes they could. I didn't like the 3dr Hatch it was too small, I stopped by Toyota to check out the 5dr. I wasn't floored, but I could see the potential, then they said no manual and I thought what a shame. I looked at the xD, but the dealer couldn't answer simple comparison questions like other 5drs that they considered their biggest competitors and how they thought their car outperformed them. The guy showed me a bunch of trick options and I had to bring up the engine, body weight, and suspension. I felt like they were trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:20 AM   #31
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xD has the 1.8L too. Like the Yaris TS. If i were in the states, i'd probably just get the xD.
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i read something that scion sales were way down due to poor marketing
so basically you're saying you wouldn't buy an xD because toyota didn't market it properly?

does this make it any LESS of a contender (dominator) of the 5door yaris?

no.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:54 PM   #33
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no where did i say that

slow down and try reading

i wouldnt buy the XD because its ugly not because of marketing as stated in previous posts
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no where did i say that

slow down and try reading

i wouldnt buy the XD because its ugly not because of marketing as stated in previous posts
so you'd pay MORE for LESS by buying a 5door yaris?
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:22 PM   #35
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i would pay for what i like and since i do not like the XD then i would get the yaris

do you own an XD or something since your practically humping them

whats the point of your posts anyway?

do you just want attention or something?

or just looking to start more drama?

the thread is about no 5spd for 5 door S

not about how cool the XD is compared to the yaris

i swear to god you fill this forum with such useless crap and drama

go bug some other thread, im looking for peoples comments on yaris since you know last time i checked this is yarisworld now tamagolovesthexd.com
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:10 PM   #36
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i would pay for what i like and since i do not like the XD then i would get the yaris

do you own an XD or something since your practically humping them

whats the point of your posts anyway?

do you just want attention or something?

or just looking to start more drama?

the thread is about no 5spd for 5 door S

not about how cool the XD is compared to the yaris

i swear to god you fill this forum with such useless crap and drama

go bug some other thread, im looking for peoples comments on yaris since you know last time i checked this is yarisworld now tamagolovesthexd.com


actually.. www.this is the internet.com

but hey i only pointed out that if you're complaining that the 5door yaris only comes in Auto, then maybe you should look at an xD.

and no, i don't nor will i ever own an xD.
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