Fed up with rubbing... heres my plan - Toyota Yaris Forums

Brentorius · 12-20-2009, 10:56 PM

My current setup consists of OEM shocks with Tein S-tech springs, 17x7 +45 Team Dynamics with 205/40 tires, factory alignment. My ride height is 12.5" all around center of hub to fender.

I am getting rubbing in the front on almost every bump and it is really annoying. Turning at low speeds does not rub at all. The rear are fine even with a 12mm hub spacer.

My plan is to get an alignment with -2 camber and 0 toe in the front and from my calcs, I can move the upper outside edge of the tire ~.4" in. I have on the way: Tokico blues, TigerTec springs <a bit milder drop with a little higher spring rate in the front>, and a 23mm rear sway.

How does this sound? I have a lot of $$ invested in my rims and tires and want to keep them. The rims are really light <for 17's anyway>. I can switch to 195/45 tires and gain some width clearance there but lose some wheel well clearance <they are a little taller than the current tires>.

Black Yaris · 12-20-2009, 11:02 PM

wonder why you are rubbing? I ran 205/40R17's +45 allday on DF's with no problems

and once you get the tigertec springs there will be no need for the extra - camber or smaller tires

Brentorius · 12-20-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

wonder why you are rubbing? I ran 205/40R17's +45 allday on DF's with no problems

and once you get the tigertec springs there will be no need for the extra - camber or smaller tires

Maybe the teins sag? IIRC stock height was measured at 15" hub to fender which would indicate a 2.5" drop with the Teins...

RacerFreakXXX · 12-21-2009, 01:53 AM

that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

blacksandiegovitz · 12-21-2009, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

Not really an "insane drop" at all Imo and with the high offset on the wheels and not really wide tires at all all the "rubbing" is comming from the fender liners . Jack the car up , pull the stupid fender liners out and enjoy your car with no "rubbing" noises

ddongbap · 12-21-2009, 04:06 AM

My signature is an insane drop.

Brentorius · 12-21-2009, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

Not really an "insane drop" at all Imo and with the high offset on the wheels and not really wide tires at all all the "rubbing" is comming from the fender liners . Jack the car up , pull the stupid fender liners out and enjoy your car with no "rubbing" noises

Yes the fender liners are interfering; I am not going to pull the liners because this is my daily...

Brentorius · 12-21-2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

On the Tein website they are listed as 1.9 F&R for the 3-dr and 2.1/2.3 for the 5-dr

http://www.tein.com/price/toyota.html

Black Yaris · 12-21-2009, 07:40 AM

the DF's settled to closer to a 3 inch drop, so I really do not see how the Teins are having a problem

blacksandiegovitz · 12-21-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentorius

Yes the fender liners are interfering; I am not going to pull the liners because this is my daily...

Well if you don't want to address you problem then why did you ask the question

Fyi I don't see what not having fender liners has to do with your car being daily driven , I pulled my fender liners last year , slammed my ride on cusco coilovers and have not had a problem yet...and my car is daily driven

cali yaris · 12-21-2009, 11:46 AM

+1 no liners, daily driver here too.

But if he doesn't want to, that's ok. Do the springs and shocks first, then see if you have rubbing and need to do negative camber in the front. (OP mentioned the camber first, but I think that is out of order since he already has parts on the way).

You can also TRIM the liners only where they rub, keeping the rest intact.

Brentorius · 12-21-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

Well if you don't want to address you problem then why did you ask the question

Fyi I don't see what not having fender liners has to do with your car being daily driven , I pulled my fender liners last year , slammed my ride on cusco coilovers and have not had a problem yet...and my car is daily driven

On previous cars, removing fender liners led debris and water in the engine bay or exposing wires and electronics to the elements. Maybe this is not a problem with the Yaris so i will consider it. More than 1 way of doing things and I just wanted to get some opinions.

Thanks for everyones input. I'll update when the new parts are installed.

Tamago · 12-21-2009, 03:18 PM

the camber will help a lot. and -2.0 isn't really that much, honestly. i've daily driven on -3.0 and flipped the tires once in their life cycle.. not too bad, and it sure turns nicely :D

marlondog · 12-22-2009, 11:28 AM

Just change out the shocks! I had the same problem. Those Tokico'z will do the job, and you won't need to change out everything. Put that extra cash away for a rainy day!

Brentorius · 12-22-2009, 12:59 PM

I trimmed the front fender liners a bit where they were rubbing. There is still rubbing, but not as frequent.

@marlondog I am going to try the tokico blues/tein springs first with slightly aggressive alignment (-1.5 camber 0 toe) and see how that goes. I really like the stance with the teins! If not, I am going to go with the slightly higher TigerTecs.

yarr_is · 12-22-2009, 01:18 PM

You can always ... roll the fenders and never worry about rubbing anymore. Even though you go wide on wheels =3

marlondog · 12-22-2009, 01:59 PM

Keep it Teinsta! I swithched to NF's for 2 weeks, but missed my green springs so bad. I put them back on, and the rub was gone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentorius

I trimmed the front fender liners a bit where they were rubbing. There is still rubbing, but not as frequent.

@marlondog I am going to try the tokico blues/tein springs first with slightly aggressive alignment (-1.5 camber 0 toe) and see how that goes. I really like the stance with the teins! If not, I am going to go with the slightly higher TigerTecs.

Arkhangel · 12-22-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarr_is

You can always ... roll the fenders and never worry about rubbing anymore. Even though you go wide on wheels =3

im running 215/45/17, rolled the rear fenders and still rubbing, i think its agains the screws holding the rear bumper, only rubs on deep dips, got
TRD's on the way hopefully will solve the issue

12-20-2009, 10:56 PM	#1
Brentorius Drives: 07 Mazda MX5 Copper Red Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 116	Fed up with rubbing... heres my plan My current setup consists of OEM shocks with Tein S-tech springs, 17x7 +45 Team Dynamics with 205/40 tires, factory alignment. My ride height is 12.5" all around center of hub to fender. I am getting rubbing in the front on almost every bump and it is really annoying. Turning at low speeds does not rub at all. The rear are fine even with a 12mm hub spacer. My plan is to get an alignment with -2 camber and 0 toe in the front and from my calcs, I can move the upper outside edge of the tire ~.4" in. I have on the way: Tokico blues, TigerTec springs <a bit milder drop with a little higher spring rate in the front>, and a 23mm rear sway. How does this sound? I have a lot of $$ invested in my rims and tires and want to keep them. The rims are really light <for 17's anyway>. I can switch to 195/45 tires and gain some width clearance there but lose some wheel well clearance <they are a little taller than the current tires>. __________________ Brent Former Yaris Owner

12-20-2009, 11:02 PM	#2
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	wonder why you are rubbing? I ran 205/40R17's +45 allday on DF's with no problems and once you get the tigertec springs there will be no need for the extra - camber or smaller tires __________________

12-21-2009, 07:40 AM	#9
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	the DF's settled to closer to a 3 inch drop, so I really do not see how the Teins are having a problem __________________

12-21-2009, 11:46 AM	#11
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	+1 no liners, daily driver here too. But if he doesn't want to, that's ok. Do the springs and shocks first, then see if you have rubbing and need to do negative camber in the front. (OP mentioned the camber first, but I think that is out of order since he already has parts on the way). You can also TRIM the liners only where they rub, keeping the rest intact. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

12-22-2009, 12:59 PM	#15
Brentorius Drives: 07 Mazda MX5 Copper Red Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 116	I trimmed the front fender liners a bit where they were rubbing. There is still rubbing, but not as frequent. @marlondog I am going to try the tokico blues/tein springs first with slightly aggressive alignment (-1.5 camber 0 toe) and see how that goes. I really like the stance with the teins! If not, I am going to go with the slightly higher TigerTecs. __________________ Brent Former Yaris Owner

12-21-2009, 01:53 AM	#4
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	that's an insane drop, the teins are only supposed to do 1.5 on hatch and I think 2.0 on sedan.

12-21-2009, 04:06 AM	#6
ddongbap Banned Drives: yw calls me douche and racist. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hay Posts: 2,183	My signature is an insane drop.

12-22-2009, 11:28 AM	#14
marlondog Shut your fricken suck!!! View User's Garage Drives: 07' liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 755	Just change out the shocks! I had the same problem. Those Tokico'z will do the job, and you won't need to change out everything. Put that extra cash away for a rainy day!

12-22-2009, 01:18 PM	#16
yarr_is Drives: yaris Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West LA Posts: 161	You can always ... roll the fenders and never worry about rubbing anymore. Even though you go wide on wheels =3 __________________ Partially Sponsored by: Tanabe USA

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
anyone rubbing with df210 on 205/45/17	marcus	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	3	07-09-2009 11:59 AM
Rubbing	botchilah	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	0	06-06-2009 04:32 PM
Dealing With Rubbing	nqd	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	42	04-24-2009 02:56 PM
hard to find anything that's NOT 38 or 40 offset... will these fit without rubbing?	tonyg	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	10	03-19-2009 09:53 PM
Rubbing: 185/60/15 w/NF210's	songa	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	10	12-10-2008 06:09 PM