Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

I forgot to mention that I love to feel the Bass in my chest and hair, even if I lean forward away from the seat!

In my previews install when leaning away from the seat some of the Bass feeling was lost, I guess the seats where shaking since the Solo-Barics where facing the rear of the seats.

I just came back from lunch and another example of a song that I played last week and didn't like was Waka_Waka_(The_Official_2010_FIFA_World_Cup) but today sounded really good.

It's amazing how tweaking here and there makes such a big difference.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

How's the center image with the mids?

Mmm, I've been playing with crossover points & TA and now I know how to move the center image left and right, isn't that cool!

Where is your sweet spot? teach me please.

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[sqcomp]

My center image? It's straight on the center of the top of the instrument cluster...depending on the recording...but the channel imaging vocal on the IASCA disc is solidly on top of the dash above the dash cover & cluster.

Crossover points are going to help with the depth...

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

My center image? It's straight on the center of the top of the instrument cluster...depending on the recording...but the channel imaging vocal on the IASCA disc is solidly on top of the dash above the dash cover & cluster.

Crossover points are going to help with the depth...

Ok, got it I'll move it there tomorrow, where can I learn more about IASCA disk and competitions, rules or how your system is tested and judge? not that I'm going to compete "no way" but would like to know what every body is trying to accomplish with their sound systems.

About the Crossover points, are there any rules or guides? what to do or what not to do, I know I'm asking too much and everything is relative to components, alignment etc. I've been playing with all these features and it's amazing all the tuning and control that the HU provides.

Probably I'm going to fast, I still need to build my crazy ideas mounting the mids and tweeters on the A-pillars, for now I can only say thank you to all the people who has posted here and help me with my install, all this is a learning process so keep them coming.

Thank you,
Derick

[Herbicidal]

Not to take this thread off topic, but I'm curious on what I would look for in a new HU that would allow for all the "sound stage adjustments" you're playing with? Do these tend to fall into the "high end" category? I would like to take full advantage of the sound deadening and audio components I have installed to date. At the moment, only my HU is still stock. Just thinking a bit about the future and to start saving some $$$'s... Thanks!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Not to take this thread off topic, but I'm curious on what I would look for in a new HU that would allow for all the "sound stage adjustments" you're playing with? Do these tend to fall into the "high end" category? I would like to take full advantage of the sound deadening and audio components I have installed to date. At the moment, only my HU is still stock. Just thinking a bit about the future and to start saving some $$$'s... Thanks!

Think no more, P-99 it's one of a kind! and don't worry you are not going off topic here, this is what it's all about, Sound system upgrade and deadening... and you will need to run at least 3 amps and 4 different kind of speakers ... a Subwoofer, a 6.5" midbass, a 3" or 4" midrange and a pair of tweeters. And give up your rear speakers!

LINK to a $1,200 future investment!

[Herbicidal]

HOLY SMOKES!!! OK, I can't honestly justify that baby for my car! That is a SWEET HU though. Thanks for the info.

[sqcomp]

Herb...

Look at the JBL MS-8 or the Audison Bit One if you want flexibility and tuning options. They're going to be about half as much as the P99RS.

Now...if you want the big brother to the P99RS:



This one puts the P99RS (and the P-01) on the lower shelf.

[derickveliz2]

That looks retro-cool! I bet it's a beast for SQ, if the P-99 its amazing I would be looking forward on his big brother.

BTW my old head unit DEH-P835R-W (10 years old, the best in class back then) in junction with EQ-6500 are no way near the sound quality the P-99 provides. It's amazing how technology moves forward in a decade.

Last night I started a crazy idea!!! crazy because it's unusual, new to most of us, just like deadening a car with MLV as a noise barrier and only applying Mat to 25% of the metal surface to control panel resonance... This new concept or idea it's called...

Diffractions





PS....
My boss just called me... BAD NEWS.... yeah that's right they are letting me go )o: I guess I'm going to spend more time with my family now and have some more time to work on my car... (thinking positive)

I'll post pictures of what I did last night! about this crazy idea, and if you would like to read more about diffractions... follow this LINK

Derick
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[sickpuppy1]

Holy crap, what bad news!!! Hope you get something soon! real soon.....

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Herb...

Look at the JBL MS-8 or the Audison Bit One if you want flexibility and tuning options. They're going to be about half as much as the P99RS.

Thanks SQComp! Since I'm still using the stock HU, it would seem to my simple mind that I would not be taking full advantage of either of those units. Would it be better to replace the stock HU with a moderate level upgrade, then connect it to one of those bad boys?

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

My boss just called me... BAD NEWS.... yeah that's right they are letting me go )o: I guess I'm going to spend more time with my family now and have some more time to work on my car... (thinking positive)

Well that just BLOWS!!! About the job that is, not more time with family part. I was laid off last after 12 years with that employer as my I.T position was "outsourced". However, I was brought back on two months later as a contractor. Been back in that capacity for just over a year now. Hopefully you can afford a little time off and can take care of some of your projects, then regroup and find new employment. Hopefully closer to home! Like you said, think positive!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

!!! I was laid off last after 12 years with that employer as my I.T position was "outsourced". However, I was brought back on two months later as a contractor. Been back in that capacity for just over a year now. Hopefully you can afford a little time off and can take care of some of your projects, then regroup and find new employment. Hopefully closer to home! Like you said, think positive!

12 years ago I moved to the US on August 19th, 1998

Thanks Herb, We'll see what happens.


Derick.

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

Holy crap, what bad news!!! Hope you get something soon! real soon.....

Thanks, skickpuppy1 me too!

Derick
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[derickveliz2]

Here are the pictures of my new project...











I tried the left tweeter today and holly cow the tweeter disappears I can't located. And for some reason sounds much clear and crisp without been harsh compare to the one without the sphere, and did a quick test I put the sphere on the right side and I got the same results, I like it.

When I started reading about diffractions I just didn't understand it, but there is some thing there that it's working. It's like the MLV I just didn't get it at the beginning, if this turns to be a very ugly idea I will keep searching for more options, or at least I could say, "my car has big balls!"



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[sqcomp]

Derick,

Sorry to hear about the job. I know how you feel. I resigned from my last job rather tentatively. I got a job two weeks after that pit my last job to shame. Look forward and not back. Holler at me if you need. You have my phone number.

Now...down to the stereo topics. Out of curiosity, when you say best in class, what class are you talking about? I like the stage 4 install emulation with the spheres! Make it happen! Your question about what you should get is still on my mind. You've got enough sub bass. The old D series subs are good woofers. That leaves the mid bass or the tweeter. I'd look at the L6...used perhaps. I wish you could get a pair for $200 bit that's not going to happen. Maybe some clarus mids. The L1 pros are still on the table.

I don't know how the job thing will affect your purchases. Right now you have all the speakers to make a system work though.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Derick,

Sorry to hear about the job. I know how you feel. I resigned from my last job rather tentatively. I got a job two weeks after that pit my last job to shame. Look forward and not back. Holler at me if you need. You have my phone number.

Now...down to the stereo topics. Out of curiosity, when you say best in class, what class are you talking about? I like the stage 4 install emulation with the spheres! Make it happen! Your question about what you should get is still on my mind. You've got enough sub bass. The old D series subs are good woofers. That leaves the mid bass or the tweeter. I'd look at the L6...used perhaps. I wish you could get a pair for $200 bit that's not going to happen. Maybe some clarus mids. The L1 pros are still on the table.

I don't know how the job thing will affect your purchases. Right now you have all the speakers to make a system work though.

Thanks, I like what you said... "Look forward and not back" inspires me!

10 years ago bought one of the most expensive Pioneer HUs I could find, I was referring to that one, compare to the P-99 10 years after technology is much better.

About the spheres I think I'm going to drop off the 5" sphere for the Mids, they are too big and they bring the Mids closer together so I'm thinking that its not good, my stage narrows if I do that and I would like to have it as wide as possible. But the smaller spheres for tweeters it's a go!

I think I'm not going to buy expensive L6 ( I would love to ) for now I'm going to be on the safe side until I find out what's going to happen, I'm struggling about the L1 pros, I guess my mind will be much better next week to talk about them. Don't move them from the table!

Tomorrow is my last day officially at work, lots of things to bring home.

Looking Forward!

[sqcomp]

10 years ago...thinking thinking thinking...the best Pioneer you could get was the ODR P9 combo. Alpine's was the F#1, McIntosh had the MX5000, Clarion had the DRZ(x) 9255, Nakamichi had the CD700II, I seem to remember Panasonic had that gorgeous tube deck...

There are a few more.

Do some staging experaments with your mids down in the kickpanels. If you find that you like that sound, take the tweeters ABOVE 8kHz on the crossover.

Those L1s aren't going anywhere. They're collecting dust. Scott would be happy that they might go to a good home. Oh...the L4s might be coming out to make room for the L4SE soon... he he... want a mid that can play over 7 octaves? he he

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

10 years ago...thinking thinking thinking...the best Pioneer you could get was the ODR P9 combo. Alpine's was the F#1, McIntosh had the MX5000, Clarion had the DRZ(x) 9255, Nakamichi had the CD700II, I seem to remember Panasonic had that gorgeous tube deck...

There are a few more.

Do some staging experaments with your mids down in the kickpanels. If you find that you like that sound, take the tweeters ABOVE 8kHz on the crossover.

Those L1s aren't going anywhere. They're collecting dust. Scott would be happy that they might go to a good home. Oh...the L4s might be coming out to make room for the L4SE soon... he he... want a mid that can play over 7 octaves? he he

You are so good! I can imagine my lack of knowledge when I went to the car-audio shop and asked for the best HU they had in store. Probably I looked like a dummy with cash in hand for them...

I'm just a music lover that learns from brilliant people like you!


Ok I'll try to move the mids down in the kickpanels but some thing tells me I won't like it, I could be wrong but I'm a good listener and you are a great teacher.
so tweeters about 8kHz what about the mids? from ? to ?


Thanks (L1s) I'll contact you next week (from home I guess?)

Ok, now you are killing me L4s too, I'll wait a couple of month and you'll be changing your car!
tell me how can you translate to me "play over 7 octaves" compare to the HL-70 Hertz please?


Thanks for every thing!

Here is a picture of my car this morning!