trade yaris for subaru wrx, maybe sti?

[why?]

Originally Posted by PK198105

AWD will NOT make you a safer/better driver. Common sense will. I'm sorry but the mentality of I need an SUV/AWD or gimmicks to avoid accidents is whats wrong with drivers nowadays. Most cars in the ditch that I see are AWD luxury cars.

Still so true.

Originally Posted by FSANE

thanks to the teens with some money, insurance rates on WRX are at record high. I would check to see the cost difference first before buying the car.

This is a great reason to call up your insurance agent and ask him what the insurance would be on said cars before buying them.

Originally Posted by Fenrizwolf

I work 30 miles away. Last winter on the freeway I saw a durango come across the median slamming into a ford ranger killing the ranger driver. The ranger was the car in front of me. I am very scared now and I will have an AWD subaru with the best snow tires. It wont save me from other drivers but It will make me a safe driver. I was going to buy a 02-05 wrx and keep the yaris for years and years, and years. The mpg is of course unbeatable. My wife said if I want the Subaru I have to trade the yaris in. The cost of 3 cars, insurance, and gas will not be less than 2 cars and insurance, and a subaru using premium gas and more of it. What should I do guys? On one hand I have the Yaris for a very long time which is so cheap, and a used Subaru which will nickel and dime me for a long time. OR a brand new warrantied Subaru. What should I do?

If this helps people look at the numbers I have 3 cost of ownerships.
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cos...341/index.html 2007 toyota bought brand new with under 30K on it
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cos...725/index.html Used Subaru with ? miles and ? things wrong with it

vs.

http://www.internetautoguide.com/cos...077/index.html Brand new 20010/11 wrx or maybe sti

Just note that the Ranger prolly had 4wd, so that wouldn't change anything in a situation like that. And that type of situation is prolly 1 in a billion or more.

Just do the math, and you will get your answer. A brand new WRX would be really cool to have, if you don't care about the gas mileage, and everything else looks good to you. I'd just triple check all the math, insurance, gas, maintenance, any loan money still left to pay off the Yaris, etc, just to make sure everything works for you.

It is a completely different driving experience though, and is completely up to you.

As for safer driving, that is all you and none of your car. A car can't drive for you (yet). Don't buy a car just because it would make you feel better, to me that is a waste of money. Investing in some driver schools would be better off for that type of thing, there are some really amazing ones out there.

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Originally Posted by yarrr

Rofl, apparently neither of you have driven AWD cars, or learned how to pull out of a spin in one. There are sitiuations that you can pull out of with AWD(especially with traction/yaw control on a WRX) that you will never pull out of in a FWD/RWD vehicle.

I'm all for learning how to drive and stuff, but you guys are just wrong on this one. @altitude, barrell down the freeway on a curve and hit some sand someone kicked on the freeway and tell me AWD makes no difference.

+ 1, My father has a sti and i drive it whenever he visits me, weve taken it to adams track and the AWD makes an extreme difference in being safe.

Any time you start to loose control or spin out, your AWD kicks in and helps prevent you from loosing control where as a FWD car couldn't, this is pure common sense also, i can't believe this was even questioned.

[Fenrizwolf]

Well my wife said no to the wrx i looked at, but we picked up a 2007 base model impreza with the same mileage as our yaris for dirt cheap. It does not have the nice updated interior like the yaris, or the mpg, but it is safer, (frontal and side impact) and has awd, and is a low payment. We will be sad to see the yaris go as it was our first car, and we have loved it.

[zachryboles]

i say you get the subi sti and we go drifting.......... just saying

[why?]

Originally Posted by PK198105

AWD doesn't "kick in", its always on and transfers the power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip (just like Subaru says) and thats when you are driving not spinning. And trust me you can make the AWD useless in some situations, and once you are spinning the car is pretty much on par with anything else on the road it might be harder to get there but once it happens its already too late. Every winter I see about a dozen accidents and the vast majority is either a SUV with AWD/ETS/STD/PMS/ABS/AA/ETC or one of the Mercs/Subs/Audis, just because you have an electronic nanny in your car doesn't necessarily make it safer. People are relying way too much on electronics nowadays to bother driving properly (the new trend now is the automatic blindspot warning system, I mean how f!@#$% lazy do you have to be not to be able to rotate your head for a second to verify that you are not plowing into someone, might as well give it a rest and just take a bus)

quoted for oh so much truth. Time to make getting a license a lot harder in the USA, it is just far too easy.

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Originally Posted by why?

quoted for oh so much truth. Time to make getting a license a lot harder in the USA, it is just far too easy.

that, and our drivers are not trained in how to handle an emergency(like a gas pedal sticking under the floormats)... i personally think that getting a driver's license should be like it is in europe... costs as much in europe to get a drivers license as it does to get a pilot's license in the us...

[why?]

Originally Posted by silver_echo

that, and our drivers are not trained in how to handle an emergency(like a gas pedal sticking under the floormats)... i personally think that getting a driver's license should be like it is in europe... costs as much in europe to get a drivers license as it does to get a pilot's license in the us...

I don't think the cost is really important, but the fact that the test is just completely lame. They just need to make training much more rugged and much longer.