Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site
 

 


 
Go Back   Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site > Technical Forums > Forced Induction Forum
  The Tire Rack

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-23-2010, 03:25 PM   #343
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
Today changed engine oil and coolant and installed the "NEW" Teflon braided pipe for the turbo water line. Also all in cabin wiring is finished and arranged it like it never been there .

During the turbo water line installation I came to notice that the idle control on the throttle body has the coolant pipes missing (In and Out). Then I understood that these were being used to feed coolant to the turbo from the beginning. So I ask are these essentially needed for the idle control to work fine also since I changed the engine management? What are the consequences of these removed?

Also I need to know some information on the Idle control like frequency and normal operating conditions. I attached a screenshot of the page of the ecu software to set this up
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Idle software.jpg (106.9 KB, 243 views)
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 05:28 PM   #344
cali yaris
ULTIMATE
 
cali yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canoga Park, CA
Posts: 14,859
Send a message via AIM to cali yaris
I know I'm not using those on my TB
__________________
Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.
cali yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010, 09:44 AM   #345
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
Today I tried to start the engine but it seems there is something blocking the startup since it is stopping cranking after only few seconds.

I tried to increase fuel on the rpm range but still no start. After I came across this describtion of the starter on the manual and it says :

"IN CASE THAT THE STARTER BEGINS TO OPERATE, BUT CANNOT DETECT THE ENGINE SPEED SIGNAL, THE ECM WILL STOP THE STARTER OPERATION IMMEDIATELY"

Then I began to think that since I am operating the starter through the stock toyota ecu and I disconnected the engine speed signal (which is the Crank Trigger Sensor) and connected it to the Haltech Ecu, the stock ecu is surely not detecting the crank trigger and is probably stopping startup. I am not sure about this but it could be plausable.

Now I decided to eliminate the starter by using an external relay and a push button.

Although I am not sure about this so Garm or any other that has changed their ecu should tell if this is true or not.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Starter description.jpg (82.9 KB, 230 views)
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2010, 08:11 AM   #346
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
Here is the current setup
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Engine Haltech.jpg (166.6 KB, 223 views)

Last edited by Parmas; 08-28-2010 at 03:55 PM.
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2010, 03:58 PM   #347
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
I would like the experts to confirm with me about the Triggering of the engine in relation to Camshaft position.

Main needs are:

1. Trigger Angle

2. Tooth Offset between crank trigger and camshaft trigger

3. Trigger / Home Edge
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Haltech Trigger.jpg (87.5 KB, 223 views)
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2010, 02:59 PM   #348
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
All is ready and prepared for the dyno tune. It is scheduled to be within the next week so cross hands all goes well to jump to some nice numbers.

I think I finally earned this after 2 years owning the engine it has not passed 500miles on it!

The only thing remaining is putting on the bumper in place and we are ready to go.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Samco.JPG (167.9 KB, 201 views)
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2010, 03:58 PM   #349
pimp my yaris
C'est la vie
 
pimp my yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 2 door hatchback
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: chicago
Posts: 482
Looks good. All Business.
pimp my yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 12:39 PM   #350
changchewsoon
 
Drives: Vios Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 190
Send a message via MSN to changchewsoon Send a message via Yahoo to changchewsoon
time to make some serious power parmas, can't wait to see the numbers on the dyno!
__________________
454 whp, 1.7 bar boost, pump gas, water/meth.
501 whp, 2.2 bar boost, pump gas + avgas, no water/meth.
www.viosturbo.com - World's first 500 WHP 1NZ-FE
changchewsoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 12:59 PM   #351
cali yaris
ULTIMATE
 
cali yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canoga Park, CA
Posts: 14,859
Send a message via AIM to cali yaris
CLEAN - you are ready!
__________________
Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.
cali yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 02:08 PM   #352
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
Car was brought to the tuning facility for tuning.

For a change we had trouble keeping the engine on idle and was misfiring as hell. The tuner said that probably it is something related to the camshafts \ VVti activation position etc...

We brought another standard engine to compare values of crank triggering versus camshaft positions etc... which are still working on it.

Tomorrow will check the intake manifold and throttle body for leaks just in case. Also need to change the oil turbo feed line since the tuner said it is too wide than normal condtions.

I would like to know what happens to the camshaft position if you disconnect the Cam timing plug (near the alternator) . Would it become fully retarded or fully advanced or a certain degree?

This answer will help the tuner much with his issues!
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2010, 04:04 PM   #353
Bluevitz-rs
1NZ-6spd
 
Bluevitz-rs's Avatar
 
Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,967
^ unplugging the VVTi solenoid leaves the cam at 0°. So no advance.
Bluevitz-rs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 01:48 AM   #354
advocate
 
Drives: car
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: location
Posts: 1,033
Parmas,

That haltech digital dash is absolutely stunning.

I saw one of these in a rally car the other day and figured I would never be able to have anything nearly as cool as that in my car so seeing it in front of your dash has made me really excited to start working on my engine once the funds become available.

Keep going strong man we're rooting for you.
advocate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 09:56 AM   #355
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
Quote:
Originally Posted by advocate View Post
Parmas,

That haltech digital dash is absolutely stunning.

I saw one of these in a rally car the other day and figured I would never be able to have anything nearly as cool as that in my car so seeing it in front of your dash has made me really excited to start working on my engine once the funds become available.

Keep going strong man we're rooting for you.
I agree with you on the digital dash although you missed that was only an opinion of changchewsoon. I don't own it at this time.

Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 10:57 AM   #356
cali yaris
ULTIMATE
 
cali yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canoga Park, CA
Posts: 14,859
Send a message via AIM to cali yaris
^ Me neither but I would like to do a digital dash, right in front of me (where it belongs? LOL), someday.
__________________
Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.
cali yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 12:18 PM   #357
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
I brought the car to my tuner that specifically recommends Haltech ecus. He worked about 2 days trying to start but the engine persist to misfire and cannot remain idle at all. We checked the triggerring signal and it seems to be inconsistent everytime we try to start the engine. He also tried to vary filtering levels but invain.

My tuner is about sure that the problem might be coming from an issue specifically related to the 36-2 + 3 Sequence Toyota use.

Garm, did you had any issues with your AEM ecu regarding triggering?
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 01:45 PM   #358
cali yaris
ULTIMATE
 
cali yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canoga Park, CA
Posts: 14,859
Send a message via AIM to cali yaris
^ no problems at all, sorry!
__________________
Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.
cali yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2010, 03:39 AM   #359
Parmas
 
Parmas's Avatar
 
Drives: Vitz RS Turbo
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ML
Posts: 577
The problem is about sure that is a software issue but we need Haltech support to solve it before we continue.... sooo the car goes back again into my fu..ing garage.

If haltech will not solve it within the next month I have no choice but to make custom triggering wheels for the crank and the cam using Haltech Hall Effect sensors.

I hope this would be the last issue as I am really pissed of about this engine and it is making me sick.
Parmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2010, 03:07 PM   #360
cali yaris
ULTIMATE
 
cali yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canoga Park, CA
Posts: 14,859
Send a message via AIM to cali yaris
oh man that is tough -- so sorry you've gone through so much to get this far, but it's SO close now!
__________________
Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.
cali yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Motor Longevity Pavel Olavich DIY / Maintenance / Service 10 03-17-2012 12:43 PM
cali yaris built motor cali yaris Performance Modifications 83 09-04-2009 12:08 AM
Fan motor noise... 500snakz General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 10 12-01-2008 03:43 AM
Motor oil debate - interesting info but a long read. mikeukrainetz General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 6 12-10-2006 09:16 PM
Exchanging Motor on a Liftback 1.3 Lt weckjuan Performance Modifications 8 11-12-2006 11:58 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:10 PM.




YarisWorld
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.