Ford Fiesta: 40 mpg Hwy - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

bkrownd · 05-26-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by atomsareenough

Honda Jazz - Not sold in the US

This is the same as the Honda Fit, though it comes with a 1.6 liter(?) engine in the US.

bronsin · 05-26-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mick.wheelz

The point i was trying to make is that there are lots of super efficiant small cars out there that get much more than 40mpg... thats all.

I didnt realise that the US had such a small subcompact market.

After the oil embargo in the 70s you had to weight six weeks to get a subcompact. With todays prices they sell prolly less than 100,000 SCs yearly here now.

mick.wheelz · 05-26-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

After the oil embargo in the 70s you had to weight six weeks to get a subcompact. With todays prices they sell prolly less than 100,000 SCs yearly here now.

wow... yet here with a population of 20M people the sales of subcompacts for this year are over 40,000...

in europe it would be even higher again...

SailDesign · 05-26-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mick.wheelz

wow... yet here with a population of 20M people the sales of subcompacts for this year are over 40,000...

in europe it would be even higher again...

Yup! Here in the States they don't learn - and the "bigger is better" philosophy still rules. It's sad.
That said, things are improving. The guy that owns our local plumbing company drives a Yaris - he was sick of putting $200 per WEEK into his SUV just to drive round and check on his guys. Things are changing - but it is God-awful slow going....

atomsareenough · 05-26-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bkrownd

This is the same as the Honda Fit, though it comes with a 1.6 liter(?) engine in the US.

Ah, okay. I didn't look at the picture, but with the different name, tiny engine, and vastly better fuel economy, I just figured it was a different car.

Hershey · 05-26-2010, 02:41 PM

same for CHINA , want to live the AMERICAN lifestyle . Bigger is better . They're part of reason why AMERICAN car manufacturers are staying afloat . Not good for the near future gas , diesel , and oil prices .

bronsin · 05-26-2010, 08:22 PM

Its crazy for China. They are trying to copy our unsustainable lifestyle. When they had a sustainable one more or less to start with.

slothman86 · 05-26-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by atomsareenough

Yeah, but they're not selling the diesel Fiesta in the US. Those numbers (29/40) are for the normal gasoline version.

Actually not the normal version...the super fuel efficient version!

bronsin · 05-27-2010, 10:17 AM

Yeah the super efficient nobody will ever find one to buy 2600 pound its all a lie that it gets 40 mpg version.

atomsareenough · 05-27-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slothman86

Actually not the normal version...the super fuel efficient version!

Isn't it just the standard automatic transmission version? The engine isn't any different, right? What's different about the "super fuel efficient" version? It's my understanding that the manual has 5-speeds, but the auto has 6-speeds and is uses "dual-clutch", so it's more efficient.

why? · 05-31-2010, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

Its crazy for China. They are trying to copy our unsustainable lifestyle. When they had a sustainable one more or less to start with.

yea if you call absolute poverty 'sustainable.' Might as well call it what it truly is to a good majority of the chinese population: "slavery."

some money is finally starting to flow to non uber wealthy chinese. of course they are going to start to spend it.

bronsin · 06-01-2010, 11:29 AM

I agree the Chinese people are in a position where they will soon be demanding a bigger slice of the pie. Its going to be a difficult balancing act for everybody. China is only seeing an illusion of prosperity. Once the cheap labor goes, what happens then? Revolution? And when, as it seems likely, the Revolution doesnt produce the desired results, whats to follow THAT? There just isnt enough $$$$ to give everybody what they want.

birdman · 01-16-2011, 07:55 PM

I believe European miles or gallons are calibrated differently giving the illusion that their cars are more efficient than ones sold in the US.

Kal-El · 01-16-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman

I believe European miles or gallons are calibrated differently giving the illusion that their cars are more efficient than ones sold in the US.

One imperial gallon is approximately equal to 1.201 U.S. gallons. Canada, Great Britain, ect. use imperial gallons thus making the "MPG" figures significantly higher even when comparing identical cars.

Also, the USA's EPA provides estimates only good for the US market. Other countries produce their own estimates which vary due to different testing techniques.

Birdman, are you wondering if the Fiesta's 40 MPG figure is the European figure? It's not, that is the official EPA estimate for America - the same testing that gave the Yaris a 35 MPG highway figure.

Midnight Drifter · 01-20-2011, 02:00 PM

I'd rather drive the Chevrolet Cruze Eco.

At least THAT is an American car, not a Mexican car.

why? · 01-20-2011, 02:25 PM

most of GM's cars are made in mexico too.

Shinare · 01-20-2011, 03:11 PM

Stupid american UAW.... not so smart to price yourself out of a job.

Hershey · 01-21-2011, 12:07 AM

The '88 > '93 FORF Festivas ( Mazda 121 ) were manufactured in MEXICO . They were / are very dependable . Wonder if it's the same plant the new FIESTA is made at ?

06-01-2010, 11:29 AM	#48
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	I agree the Chinese people are in a position where they will soon be demanding a bigger slice of the pie. Its going to be a difficult balancing act for everybody. China is only seeing an illusion of prosperity. Once the cheap labor goes, what happens then? Revolution? And when, as it seems likely, the Revolution doesnt produce the desired results, whats to follow THAT? There just isnt enough $$$$ to give everybody what they want. Last edited by bronsin; 06-01-2010 at 12:53 PM.

01-20-2011, 02:25 PM	#52
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01-20-2011, 03:11 PM	#53
Shinare Bronze bombshell yaris Drives: 09 Yaris HB 3door Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 641	Stupid american UAW.... not so smart to price yourself out of a job. __________________ Now I drive a CARMINE RED METALLIC 09 Yaris 3-door!! I'm Back!!! WooHoo!! Mods done so far: Tinted windows, Viper 211HV Remote Keyless Entry, Atoto Android headunit, backup camera, steering wheel controls Before it was totaled I drove a 2007 Black Sand Pearl 3 Door Lift-Back M/T with 49k miles. Stock Everything except for black tint, all red badges, red dash, and stealth garage door opener. Ultra-Gauge mounted on steering wheel. A1 Electric MES Central Locks and Avital 3100 Alarm system.

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Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	same for CHINA , want to live the AMERICAN lifestyle . Bigger is better . They're part of reason why AMERICAN car manufacturers are staying afloat . Not good for the near future gas , diesel , and oil prices .

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