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TickleTimeTim · 10-12-2011, 09:57 AM

I figure ill go for the biggest spacers available. And if anyone ever sells nice wheels for cheap out this way ill consider that. I'm still messing with the other flares cause I had filled them with great stuff, and its getting in the way. I'm started to get used to it, but they have a little gap at the back. I'll get more pics.

jekqmb · 10-12-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TickleTimeTim

I figure ill go for the biggest spacers available. And if anyone ever sells nice wheels for cheap out this way ill consider that. I'm still messing with the other flares cause I had filled them with great stuff, and its getting in the way. I'm started to get used to it, but they have a little gap at the back. I'll get more pics.

You plan on cutting the rear fenders? I didnt think about that since Garm just mentioned it.

cali yaris · 10-12-2011, 12:22 PM

Yes my point is that you aren't creating any room inside the edge of the flare. The stock fender edge will be sitting right there, an inch or so inside. So either the tire still has to be inside of the fender edge (and therefore not flush with the flare), or you have to leave enough clearance (ride height) so the tire doesn't touch the stock fender on bumps. That will look wonky.

The alternative to get the flush look I think you want is to trim the fender -- but cutting metal permanently is not for everyone; there is no going back.

TickleTimeTim · 10-12-2011, 02:53 PM

Can I do 30mm spacers and still be in stock weld? Cutting metal is not for me, I learned that when I tried to drill for a spoiler.

WeeYari · 10-12-2011, 03:03 PM

Maximum spacing to achieve easily would be about 23mm with a combination of hub and wheel spacers. Getting long emough stud bolts into the hub for anything longer than 10mm wheel spacers pretty much requires disassembly of the hub. Regardless, you still have to deal with, or accept the issue of your fenders slamming down on top of the tires if you don't cut away the fender arches.

ilikerice · 10-12-2011, 03:14 PM

Yeppers.. I think this is the end of the road for your fender flare project. If you are not willing to cut your fenders for a flush look, its gonna look really goofy. like a 4x4 Jeep if you keep stock ride height... if you lower it any at all, you will be cut up your tires and your skin will crawl every time it happens.. ask me how I know..

TickleTimeTim · 10-12-2011, 04:45 PM

So does that mean that everyone on this forum that has spacers either rubs or has cut away the fenders?

WeeYari · 10-12-2011, 06:20 PM

Most with anything more than a mild drop, with spacers 10mm or greater experience a rub with standard +42mm offset wheels. The rub experienced is the rear fender clearing the tread and making contact with the sidewall. If you are talking about 30mm spacers, then I'm guessing you would be looking at an effective offset somewhere around +10 to +15mm. The front is a whole other story since there is less outward movement to play with and rubbing will also occur during full left/right turns.

cali yaris · 10-12-2011, 08:16 PM

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So does that mean that everyone on this forum that has spacers either rubs or has cut away the fenders?

No -- but they aren't using flares. THEIR tires still tuck inside the stock fender. The flare brings the visual edge of your fender out 1-1.5". So if you still tuck inside the stock fender under there, you won't be near the edge of the flare. That won't, in my opinion, look very good.

Get it?

TickleTimeTim · 10-13-2011, 02:36 AM

im getting it. but it now makes no difference as 3m doesn't put up as good a fight at 100mph....sucked that bad boy right off my car. oh well, wasn't meant to be.

cali yaris · 10-13-2011, 11:41 AM

ilikerice · 10-13-2011, 12:37 PM

HOly monkey balls, 100mph using only 3M tape? *GASP* are they ruined now?

JDMPORT · 10-13-2011, 02:21 PM

Man. I told you to put some screws in the bottom, guy. I am so sorry to hear about that happening. When I sold those to you, I wanted you to get a really good look at them. I had 10mm spacers in my rear wheels along with -5 camber plates and they sat just right in the rear when I test fit them, however, I just decided not to go with flares. That sucks that you lost one, tho. Your friends are definitely right about spacing your wheels. However, with Coilovers, if set right and not trying to slam them on the fenders when sitting still, you maybe could have avoided MUCH rubbing. Unfortunately with these flares, you could not get away with rolling the fenders. HOWEVER, I would NOT advise you to cut the fenders as that will take away from the strength and support that is meant for that panel of your car. You will make it alot weaker. Here is a best bet for you. If you are still into getting flares, go with the ones that screw into your fender. With the exposed bolts. YEs, they DO sell them in Carbon Fiber. No, it will NOT look wack if done RIGHT. Honestly, if you are not afraid of it, get a fiberglass shop in our local area to custom make you some flares. Wouldn't hurt. May cost a bit, but you wil get EXACTLY what you desired. My personal opinion, slam the crap out of your Yaris, boss. Forget flares. Do like I did. Seriously. -Dame

JDMPORT · 10-13-2011, 02:39 PM

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Much like this. Just minus the Camber. Forget flares and slam it. Are Yaris' able to do that? LOL!!

jekqmb · 10-13-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMPORT

Man. I told you to put some screws in the bottom, guy. I am so sorry to hear about that happening. When I sold those to you, I wanted you to get a really good look at them. I had 10mm spacers in my rear wheels along with -5 camber plates and they sat just right in the rear when I test fit them, however, I just decided not to go with flares. That sucks that you lost one, tho. Your friends are definitely right about spacing your wheels. However, with Coilovers, if set right and not trying to slam them on the fenders when sitting still, you maybe could have avoided MUCH rubbing. Unfortunately with these flares, you could not get away with rolling the fenders. HOWEVER, I would NOT advise you to cut the fenders as that will take away from the strength and support that is meant for that panel of your car. You will make it alot weaker. Here is a best bet for you. If you are still into getting flares, go with the ones that screw into your fender. With the exposed bolts. YEs, they DO sell them in Carbon Fiber. No, it will NOT look wack if done RIGHT. Honestly, if you are not afraid of it, get a fiberglass shop in our local area to custom make you some flares. Wouldn't hurt. May cost a bit, but you wil get EXACTLY what you desired. My personal opinion, slam the crap out of your Yaris, boss. Forget flares. Do like I did. Seriously. -Dame

Its a bit different to slam a Yaris then it is an XB..... I could stance out a Bb in no time at all compared to a Yaris. They are totally different animals.

jekqmb · 10-13-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMPORT

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Much like this. Just minus the Camber. Forget flares and slam it. Are Yaris' able to do that? LOL!!

That isnt even slammed for a Bb... Check out BCPbox (Craig) or Dancar420 (Dan) I know both of them personally, thats how to stance a Bb, Craig has been helping me with my Yaris.

JDMPORT · 10-13-2011, 02:53 PM

Trust me, its lower than that now. Ask Tickletim. I just put that one up for an example of sitting right above the fenders. Mine is now tucking on all four with negative camber all around and I am extremely careful with trying not to knock out my power steering belt all the time. LOL!!

JDMPORT · 10-13-2011, 02:57 PM

And I know both the guys you speak of (not personally, but from other sites: CLubxB and bB Squad) and both have served a LOT as an inspiration for me and my B.

10-12-2011, 09:57 AM	#19
TickleTimeTim Free Mustache Rides View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,247	I figure ill go for the biggest spacers available. And if anyone ever sells nice wheels for cheap out this way ill consider that. I'm still messing with the other flares cause I had filled them with great stuff, and its getting in the way. I'm started to get used to it, but they have a little gap at the back. I'll get more pics. __________________ Club SHIFT

10-12-2011, 12:22 PM	#21
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Yes my point is that you aren't creating any room inside the edge of the flare. The stock fender edge will be sitting right there, an inch or so inside. So either the tire still has to be inside of the fender edge (and therefore not flush with the flare), or you have to leave enough clearance (ride height) so the tire doesn't touch the stock fender on bumps. That will look wonky. The alternative to get the flush look I think you want is to trim the fender -- but cutting metal permanently is not for everyone; there is no going back. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

10-12-2011, 02:53 PM	#22
TickleTimeTim Free Mustache Rides View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,247	Can I do 30mm spacers and still be in stock weld? Cutting metal is not for me, I learned that when I tried to drill for a spoiler. __________________ Club SHIFT

10-12-2011, 03:03 PM	#23
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 5dr LE (deceased), 13 Soul Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,809	Maximum spacing to achieve easily would be about 23mm with a combination of hub and wheel spacers. Getting long emough stud bolts into the hub for anything longer than 10mm wheel spacers pretty much requires disassembly of the hub. Regardless, you still have to deal with, or accept the issue of your fenders slamming down on top of the tires if you don't cut away the fender arches. __________________

10-12-2011, 03:14 PM	#24
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	Yeppers.. I think this is the end of the road for your fender flare project. If you are not willing to cut your fenders for a flush look, its gonna look really goofy. like a 4x4 Jeep if you keep stock ride height... if you lower it any at all, you will be cut up your tires and your skin will crawl every time it happens.. ask me how I know.. __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

10-12-2011, 04:45 PM	#25
TickleTimeTim Free Mustache Rides View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,247	So does that mean that everyone on this forum that has spacers either rubs or has cut away the fenders? __________________ Club SHIFT

10-12-2011, 06:20 PM	#26
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 5dr LE (deceased), 13 Soul Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,809	Most with anything more than a mild drop, with spacers 10mm or greater experience a rub with standard +42mm offset wheels. The rub experienced is the rear fender clearing the tread and making contact with the sidewall. If you are talking about 30mm spacers, then I'm guessing you would be looking at an effective offset somewhere around +10 to +15mm. The front is a whole other story since there is less outward movement to play with and rubbing will also occur during full left/right turns. __________________

10-13-2011, 02:36 AM	#28
TickleTimeTim Free Mustache Rides View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,247	im getting it. but it now makes no difference as 3m doesn't put up as good a fight at 100mph....sucked that bad boy right off my car. oh well, wasn't meant to be. __________________ Club SHIFT

10-13-2011, 11:41 AM	#29
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	__________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

10-13-2011, 12:37 PM	#30
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	HOly monkey balls, 100mph using only 3M tape? GASP are they ruined now? __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

10-13-2011, 02:21 PM	#31
JDMPORT TEAM SUN*WORKS reppa Drives: Scion xB Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 9	Man. I told you to put some screws in the bottom, guy. I am so sorry to hear about that happening. When I sold those to you, I wanted you to get a really good look at them. I had 10mm spacers in my rear wheels along with -5 camber plates and they sat just right in the rear when I test fit them, however, I just decided not to go with flares. That sucks that you lost one, tho. Your friends are definitely right about spacing your wheels. However, with Coilovers, if set right and not trying to slam them on the fenders when sitting still, you maybe could have avoided MUCH rubbing. Unfortunately with these flares, you could not get away with rolling the fenders. HOWEVER, I would NOT advise you to cut the fenders as that will take away from the strength and support that is meant for that panel of your car. You will make it alot weaker. Here is a best bet for you. If you are still into getting flares, go with the ones that screw into your fender. With the exposed bolts. YEs, they DO sell them in Carbon Fiber. No, it will NOT look wack if done RIGHT. Honestly, if you are not afraid of it, get a fiberglass shop in our local area to custom make you some flares. Wouldn't hurt. May cost a bit, but you wil get EXACTLY what you desired. My personal opinion, slam the crap out of your Yaris, boss. Forget flares. Do like I did. Seriously. -Dame Last edited by JDMPORT; 10-13-2011 at 02:32 PM.

10-13-2011, 02:39 PM	#32
JDMPORT TEAM SUN*WORKS reppa Drives: Scion xB Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 9	[IMG][/IMG] Much like this. Just minus the Camber. Forget flares and slam it. Are Yaris' able to do that? LOL!!

10-13-2011, 02:53 PM	#35
JDMPORT TEAM SUN*WORKS reppa Drives: Scion xB Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 9	Trust me, its lower than that now. Ask Tickletim. I just put that one up for an example of sitting right above the fenders. Mine is now tucking on all four with negative camber all around and I am extremely careful with trying not to knock out my power steering belt all the time. LOL!!

10-13-2011, 02:57 PM	#36
JDMPORT TEAM SUN*WORKS reppa Drives: Scion xB Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 9	And I know both the guys you speak of (not personally, but from other sites: CLubxB and bB Squad) and both have served a LOT as an inspiration for me and my B.

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