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05-15-2014, 12:11 PM | #55 |
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You should be able to use that wire for your tach. The pin on the OBD connector where that wire goes to for US and Canadian cars is an unused pin for OBDII communications. Toyota just happens to bring the pulsed tach signal to that pin.
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You should change your name for WikiScott
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05-15-2014, 12:19 PM | #57 |
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Awesome! I'll give it a try and let you guys know how it turns out :)
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2005 Echo RS Cluster in a 3DR 2004 Echo Liftback .
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To answer this. No sedan in Canada have a tach. Some US models have a tach like the 05 hatchback. The same swap is required for a 05 cluster in any Canadian sedan. |
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hello guys... sorry but my english is too bad ... i want to know if you know who have echo rs cluster for sale i very interesting for 1 ty ...
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I'm also doing a cluster swap from a 2000 Vitz, my stock gauge has no rpm(manual transmission). And i bought a vitz gauge with rpm(automatic transmission). Considering that mpcv2000 and I have the same problem, but the year model of our car is different, also the sockets and wire colors. I hope CTScott can address my problem
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so my problem is i dont know where to tap the "hot" and cold" wires from my RS gauge to the stock wiring harness. I hope you can help me CTScott highly appreciated |
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Cluster swapping with RPM
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I also tried changing my old meter (without RPM) with the one having RPM Needle. I followed the same PIN Diagram and things. Thanks God, Every thing is working properly after the swap except for speedometer. In fact, the new speedometer is showing a delayed speed. Like for testing I turned on the GPS in android and matched with the speedometer and the speedometer reading is 10 km/hr delayed. For example, meter is showing speed of 40 km/hr while in actuality the speed is 50 KM/HR. Please help me with this one |
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I was also thinking about resetting the ECU. Would that help? |
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If it is the case, there's nothing you can do other than completely tear apart the transmission and change the gear on the diff to match the ratio of the other transmission and speed sensor.
The speed signal goes directly from the sensor in the transmission to the cluster and then to the ecu. Resetting the ECU won't do anything. Be sure you don't have a bad connection from your wire changeover. Resistance in the signal wire could be the cause of the low speed indication. |
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.YouR point regarding different ratio is plausible as I have tried different meters with the dealer and all had the same issue.
But still to be on safe side, I will check for cold joints causing attenuation in speed signal. Post Script: for other people information, I am driving Toyota Vitz 2001(not echo or Yaris) imported directly from Japan. |
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I know this is an old post, but I wanted to complete the work that was started here and finish the wiring diagram for this cluster swap for the hi/low beams problem. After looking at the two diagrams, I'm fairly certain how to get the hi/low beam LED to work on the cluster. The '05 cluster gleans power directly from the headlights in order to power the LED, whereas the '04 cluster has a splice from the main power block that runs the cluster in order to power the light bulb. The connection to the headlight switch merely connects the hi/low beam lamp circuit to ground allowing either the LED or the lightbulb to illuminate when the switch is flipped on.
So my theory is this: Splice a wire from the '04 connector, C14 pin 1(L-Y), to the '05 connector, C14 pin 22(R-L). This should connect the LED to the 12v power source that runs the entire cluster and should power the LED when you flip on your hi beams. I can confirm this shortly after I complete my own swap this weekend. Last edited by loud41; 02-15-2018 at 03:13 PM. |
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