what brake pads & rotors are ideal for me?

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by yarrr

lol. question my reading comprehension when its obvious you just browsed the article and its your pet theory of the week.

"the cast iron under the deposit begins to transform into cementite"

So if any of this was true and not all complete BS, I could sand the deposits off, and be left with flat iron with specks of cementite in it. I've seen brake deposits, I've dealt with them, this isn't some new amazing theory. There's no question, I had solid metal, that was not a flat surface. THAT is a warped rotor. Random internet links don't negate 99% of mechanics knowledge, and my first hand experience.

I really don't get why you're attempting to deny simple physics though. Stuff expands when it gets hot, if part of a piece of metal gets hot too quickly, it can warp. I don't know how to explain it much simpler. Take a cookie sheet out of the oven and pour cold water on it to see the reverse.



I can find obscure articles from "engineers" all day. Guess what, there was an engineer(or 12) on the oil rig that blew up and ruined millions of lives. Is any paper he wrote unquestionable??

For starters, they are backwards. Slots were first used for outgassing, cross drilling was used for keeping temps down. My cross drilled rotors lasted longer without cracking or warping than the stock non drilled rotors. Pads lasted longer too. They aren't at all like cheese graters, they are flat faced and don't cut in to your pads, unless installed terribly wrong.

NASCARs also have 4 inch brake vent holes, and are rebuilt/replaced after every race. Nascar brakes also have to stop you from 200 mph, which is where cracking CAN occur. Brembo makes brakes for nascar teams, have you seen their brake line up lately?

Have you looked at a bugatti/lambo/ferrari/porsche/audi lately? THEY ALL HAVE DRILLED ROTORS. Every one of those companies has an army of engineers that make too much money to write asinine articles on the internet about which brakes are "good," they just make the best brakes, and put them on the best cars.

I think their silly theory is that by cramming on the brakes reeeal hard, getting the brake components real hot will somehow miraculously flatten out the rotor and remove all built-up deposits...in much the same way a brake lathe does, except the brake lathe is stationary and the cutting bits do a bit better job, while the vehicle's calipers and pistons are floating and subject to that built-in slop, and also the possible slop in the wheel bearings. lol