You have to keep in mind that Scion is a niche' market, so obviously its not going to appeal to most but apparently quite a few as Scion is popular. Regarless of personal feelings from others I'm glad that Scion is doing well, it helps Toyota attract a younger generation that they need so they don't become the next Buick or Oldsmobile, sure there are middle aged people buying Scions and that won't stop but I'm sure the core demographic is on target. I like the designs, I like this gen xB better than the previous but as usual the JDM equivlant is better, the new xD I like, or warming up to it. I like the previous gen xA as it was a hatch and so the xD is too. I'm not trying to preach to anyone that they have to like Scion just stating what I feel. Personally I'm into quirky and off beat looks, its unique, sure may not "look good" or "pretty" but function over form. I guess that's why I like the off beat ECHO. Yes I do see some cars as ugly and it depends on how you want to look at it, ugly or unique or both! I know there are quite a few who see the ECHO as ugly, fine, what ever you're entitled to that, same goes with any other car. We all have our flavors. And to quote one of my favorite quotes is "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one." I'll shut up now.