May be farewell to my 2008 so how good are the 2017's

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

Considering the backwards cosmetic changes and continued lack of no-brainer standard features versus other global markets on the 2018 Yaris (SE), there is zero chance that I would choose a 2018 Yaris SE over the iM at this point. The iM/Auris is just a better designed, equipped & styled car versus the 2018 Yaris SE, and it is even 100% built in Japan as a nice bonus. Plus, you can pick up an iM at certain times for LESS $$$ than a Yaris SE, with factory/dealer rebates and incentives factored in. It's just sad. Toyota might as well just discontinue the Yaris SE, and make the L/LE a fleet/rental vehicle only - like they did with the 2012 Yaris Sedan. Not like they stock them at the dealerships anyway.

theres no performance point to a wagon.

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