what are de good things and bad things about this car?

[kimona]

Originally Posted by grampi

I personally couldn't stand the auto. It felt like the only way to get even moderate acceleration was to push it hard enough so it would hold the lower gears into fairly high revs. It always seemed like the engine was having to work hard just to barely get going. The manual was just the opposite. It felt snappy in any gear, and pretty much at all RPM's. Based on my test drives, I wouldn't own a Yaris with an automatic.

I had quite a different impression after driving both the automatic and stick Vitz in Japan. Then, in the States, I test drove both versions numerous times before finally buying one. In the end, I bought the automatic; I wouldn't own a Yaris with a stick shift; I don't like the shifter, the gear ratios, or the clutch.

[grampi]

Originally Posted by kimona54

I had quite a different impression after driving both the automatic and stick Vitz in Japan. Then, in the States, I test drove both versions numerous times before finally buying one. In the end, I bought the automatic; I wouldn't own a Yaris with a stick shift; I don't like the shifter, the gear ratios, or the clutch.

To each their own I guess. I just couldn't handle the sluggishness of the auto.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by grampi

To each their own I guess. I just couldn't handle the sluggishness of the auto.

I prefer not to go round and round with this controversy, but I don't want those considering a new Yaris purchase to think the automatic is "sluggish" because it isn't! In fact, it's only one second slower in the quarter mile than the stick (and that's with a seasoned professional driving the stick).

Don't be afraid to step on the accelerator pedal and the automatic will perform flawlessly both upshifting and downshifting with great precision. The Yaris automatic is an extremely refined little transmission well fitted to the 1.5litre. I wish I could say the same about the stick because I love driving a manual shift, but the Yaris stick is just plain clumsy!

[grampi]

Originally Posted by kimona54

I prefer not to go round and round with this controversy, but I don't want those considering a new Yaris purchase to think the automatic is "sluggish" because it isn't! In fact, it's only one second slower in the quarter mile than the stick (and that's with a seasoned professional driving the stick).

Don't be afraid to step on the accelerator pedal and the automatic will perform flawlessly both upshifting and downshifting with great precision. The Yaris automatic is an extremely refined little transmission well fitted to the 1.5litre. I wish I could say the same about the stick because I love driving a manual shift, but the Yaris stick is just plain clumsy!

I didn't see at all what you're saying about the stick. The one I drove wasn't clumsy at all. In fact, it was silky smooth. I wish the manual in my Corolla was as smooth as that of the Yaris. While the actual performance of the stick vs the auto may be close to identical, the manually equipped Yaris feels quick, nimble, and sporty compared to the auto.

[kimona]

Hey Grampi, for a guy that doesn't even own a Yaris, you sure have a lot of opinions based on a simple test drive.

[grampi]

Originally Posted by kimona54

Hey Grampi, for a guy that doesn't even own a Yaris, you sure have a lot of opinions based on a simple test drive.

While I've only driven one automatic, I've driven several manuals, and a couple of them were quite extensive test drives.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by grampi

While I've only driven one automatic, I've driven several manuals, and a couple of them were quite extensive test drives.

BFD! I rest my case. Your opinion is just about worthless. A car is like a woman, you only really get to know after you've been married for some time.