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Old 08-19-2007, 01:23 PM   #1
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TSK , TSK , TSK . I love it when people THINK they can 1 up the engineers who designed the cars , but I hate it when they ruin a perfectly good car .

First of all the pistons , rings , rods , crankshaft and bearings will NOT hold up for long .
Secondly , what about all that heat . Remember the ECU is in the engine bay . NEXT to the exhaust manifold ................

THIRDLY and the BIGGEST mistake that damn near everybody makes , what about the OIL COOLER . You can NOT have a turbo car without an oil cooler . You will need a higher flow oil pump as well . Ask yourself , "How many turboed hondas have you seen blow up " , answer , "ALL OF THEM" b/c they forget the OIL COOLER . Don't kid yourself .

If you want a fast car , buy an EVO or STi . If you wanna make your Yaris faster , sign up for one of the many High Performance Driving Events (HPDE)around the country . Granted some HPDE's are better than others , but it is a much more sound investment of your money . Also you WILL become a better driver (which in turn will save money on insurance) and you will probably make some kool new friends .

All of my students say the same thing " Holy Shit I didn't know my car could do this ". I took my future daughter in law to the track for her first time last weekend . At first she was timid . By the end of the day the guy in the M3 was almost passed by a woman in a YARIS . Luckily for the guy in the M3 there was a very long straight , but then we would reel him right back in when we got to the twisty section .
Like my buddy says " Straight roads are for fast cars , Curvy roads are for fast drivers "
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:09 PM   #2
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TSK , TSK , TSK . I love it when people THINK they can 1 up the engineers who designed the cars , but I hate it when they ruin a perfectly good car .

First of all the pistons , rings , rods , crankshaft and bearings will NOT hold up for long .
Secondly , what about all that heat . Remember the ECU is in the engine bay . NEXT to the exhaust manifold ................

THIRDLY and the BIGGEST mistake that damn near everybody makes , what about the OIL COOLER . You can NOT have a turbo car without an oil cooler . You will need a higher flow oil pump as well . Ask yourself , "How many turboed hondas have you seen blow up " , answer , "ALL OF THEM" b/c they forget the OIL COOLER . Don't kid yourself .

If you want a fast car , buy an EVO or STi . If you wanna make your Yaris faster , sign up for one of the many High Performance Driving Events (HPDE)around the country . Granted some HPDE's are better than others , but it is a much more sound investment of your money . Also you WILL become a better driver (which in turn will save money on insurance) and you will probably make some kool new friends .

All of my students say the same thing " Holy Shit I didn't know my car could do this ". I took my future daughter in law to the track for her first time last weekend . At first she was timid . By the end of the day the guy in the M3 was almost passed by a woman in a YARIS . Luckily for the guy in the M3 there was a very long straight , but then we would reel him right back in when we got to the twisty section .
Like my buddy says " Straight roads are for fast cars , Curvy roads are for fast drivers "

i can understand where you are coming on most points but i personally know of 4 turbo Hondas runing without oil coolers and they have been daily driven for at least 3 years and with more than 45+K miles and still runing great.

and i know because i was the one who put them together for my brothers and friends. they all had pass 60k miles on the engines and are all over 100k miles as of right now and no problems at all.

Yes, people do think they can one up the engineers and usually fail miserably, but then theres times when you can make a car better by adding a small amount of power and better handling(which could had been done at the faxtory) and end up with a fun car.

oh btw i'll be using an oil cooler on my turbo build.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:30 PM   #3
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TSK , TSK , TSK . I love it when people THINK they can 1 up the engineers who designed the cars , but I hate it when they ruin a perfectly good car .

First of all the pistons , rings , rods , crankshaft and bearings will NOT hold up for long .

Yes you are correct, all those components have stregth & durability limmitations.


Secondly , what about all that heat . Remember the ECU is in the engine bay . NEXT to the exhaust manifold ................

The kit I am designing has the compressor on the computer side.

THIRDLY and the BIGGEST mistake that damn near everybody makes , what about the OIL COOLER . You can NOT have a turbo car without an oil cooler .

Yes you can have a turbo car without an oilcooler. Is it better to have one, yes, but is it 100% needed, no.

You will need a higher flow oil pump as well.

Sorry but I have personally built numerous high hp Hondas & Supras with stock oil pumps.

Ask yourself , "How many turboed hondas have you seen blow up " , answer , "ALL OF THEM" b/c they forget the OIL COOLER.

Hondas or any car converted to forced induction blow up due to many reasons but oil cooler is not the main reason. Overboost, too much timing, not enough fuel, bad tuning just to name a few.
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Ask yourself , "How many turboed hondas have you seen blow up " , answer , "ALL OF THEM" b/c they forget the OIL COOLER . Don't kid yourself .
Gee, I had a turbo honda and it didn't have an Oil Cooler, mine didn't blow up, infact it made 375whp at 11psi:

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