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Old 10-30-2008, 04:16 PM   #1
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Your ECU is not scouring the internet looking for proof that you have screwed with it.. and throwing CELs when you wake up in the morning.

What you fail to realize is how an ECU works. ECUs operate on voltage signals from sensors. When voltage is out of an acceptable range on a given sensor for a certain amount of time, an CEL is given (or worse, it depends on the sensor).

By wiring in a resistor to give the ECU a different voltage reading, or by mounting the o2 sensor out of the stream of exhaust you change the voltage sent to the ECU. If the "new" signal is within accepted limits, a CEL is never thrown. These limits don't change, and the ECU does no "learning" for the rear o2 sensor.

If you don't throw a CEL in the first couple days, or couple hundred miles, you will probably never see one for cat ineffiecicy. These types of CELS are not thrown right away because cats are less effective when cold, and the ECU is programmed to account for that. Again, no "learning" involved.
good explanation but i never said the wiring method was bad. just the fouler
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:31 PM   #2
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good explanation but i never said the wiring method was bad. just the fouler
The foulers do the same thing but mechanically. You are reducing the amount of exhaust gasses the sensor is exposed to, and skewing the reading. Some cars need 2 of them to keep from throwing CELs, one drilled for the sensor, and one undrilled.
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:39 PM   #3
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The foulers do the same thing but mechanically. You are reducing the amount of exhaust gasses the sensor is exposed to, and skewing the reading. Some cars need 2 of them to keep from throwing CELs, one drilled for the sensor, and one undrilled.
ok so you finally got in your head what ive been saying except for the fact that even with the double fouler method that CEL still comes on. NO, who on here is running this setup and has no light.......
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:42 PM   #4
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:04 PM   #5
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no CEL!
yeah cause you just put this on a week ago or so correct???
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:30 PM   #6
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yeah cause you just put this on a week ago or so correct???
had it b4 for 6 months WITHOUT CEL turning on till WEAPON R header broke!
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Old 10-31-2008, 04:20 PM   #7
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had it b4 for 6 months WITHOUT CEL turning on till WEAPON R header broke!
awww should have done that right the first time.....
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ok so you finally got in your head what ive been saying except for the fact that even with the double fouler method that CEL still comes on. NO, who on here is running this setup and has no light.......
See post #48.
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See post #48.
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see post 51
That post would be great if it were correct. Again, that 02 sensor is just there to verify the cats are working.
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