ABS and "!" lights are ON again!

[mr9865]

I have a feeling that once the 2009's hit the 3 year mark (when the problem seems start) it may get recalled because every 09 has ABS where it was optional in 2007-08 and it seems not many where equipped.

[Cedrica]

I got the harness replaced last year at this time after much fighting with the dealer that it indeed needed to be done. So far this year with all the snow, I've had no problems. So, IMHO, it's definitely the harness.

*EDIT: And it would have cost almost $1000 but I got in there under my 100k extended warranty so it was covered.

And you want a recall? Start sending this thread to some reporters to do their homework, I'm sure there is a vulture reporter out there somewhere ready to pounce and further denigrate Toyota's reputation with a bombshell that even the Yaris isn't spared from issues, lol.

[devinlamothe]

Mine was manufactured in Japan. I will definitely fill out the Transport Canada thing. I have yet to actually do the clean/seal with my sensors, but there is no way I am spending ANOTHER $500+ to replace a sensor that should have been fixed.

[devinlamothe]

I made sure to mention the TSB which means Toyota KNOWS about the issue and will only fix it for those under warranty.

http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-S...20C0215%29.pdf

This really is a shame.

[auxmike]

I could'nt find an ABS equipped car when I bought mine in '08.
I'm GLAD I don't have it now!

[DJCrazyChris]

I have been told by my dealer that they checked for parts yesterday and there are over 600 waiting on back order. We demanded they provide a rental and we're now into week 3 as the ABS was being used on dry pavement with most braking attempts.

Anyone else waiting a VERY long time for parts.

[Jake]

600??!!! on back order?!! Toyota needs to address this. Thanks for the link
http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-S...20C0215%29.pdf
unbelievable that they know about it and won't do a thing.

In my post, I mentioned that my abs and brake light were on, then they went off again.

This morning when I was braking, something made a noise and I had to push a lot harder than usual to stop. It felt very "spongy". Then my abs and brake light came on again. But, my pads are fine, so I wonder what's going on?? I don't have $1000 to fix a faulty problem that they know about, but I can and will write to Transport Canada. I hope that no one gets hurt because of this problem.

thanks for the links.

[DJCrazyChris]

Originally Posted by Jake

This morning when I was braking, something made a noise and I had to push a lot harder than usual to stop. It felt very "spongy"

That would be the ABS working...probably when it wasn't supposed it...now imagine driving at highway speeds and needing the brakes and getting that kind of stopping power.

[Jake]

Just read a lot of the other posts, I guess when I had to brake harder, that meant my abs was on even though it was dry pavement? The car didn't want to stop! Everyone please follow the previous post and write Transport Canada
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Here it is again

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If you have experienced this problem with your vehicle, we request that you complete our on-line complaint form. Please include your vehicle's seventeen digit vehicle identification number (VIN), current kilometerage, a narrative of the incident or problem, along with all other pertinent and contact information. Please check the box that will allow us to contact the manufacturer on your behalf.

Please visit our webpage via the link below.
https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/PCDB-BDpp?Index

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also,
my vin number also starts with a "J"

[devinlamothe]

Wow 600 on backorder??? WTF Toyota!

This is really starting to bug me.

[DuckHunt]

Hi Canucks!

You are not alone with this Yaris brake issue. I have two Yaris sedans. I have a 2007 and a 2008 model sedan. 2007 was the first year model in the US market.

I commute about 92 miles each day (150km) and love my Yaris. Last winter wasn't bad for us, but I had this issue in my 2007 Yaris Sedan in January 2009. It had 75k miles (120k km) at the time. The fix was the right rear wheel speed sensor. The hub and bearing assy was also replaced bringing the repair cost to $657 US. Fortunately I bought a 100k mile extended warranty and it covered it.

Just 8 weeks later in March 2009 my 2008 Yaris sedan came down with the same issue. It only had 12k miles (~19.3k km) at the time. The fix was the left rear wheel speed sensor and the wiring harness. I'm not sure of the cost as it was covered under warranty.

Today, I just dropped off my 2007 Yaris Sedan at the dealership. This time it is the left wheel speed sensor. They will likely be replacing the wheel & hub assy as well. They are recommending replacing the wiring harness on both sides at the same time due to corrosion. The total bill we be about $1000 US. The warranty will cover part of it, but maybe not the harness since it hasn't failed 'YET' on both sides.

Keep raising your voices over this issue. You are not alone. The US market has the SAME issue. I live about 60 miles west of Washington DC. Our winters are normally not as severe as Canada or quite as cold. If we are having the same issue here I can only imagine the issue is worse up there. I'll have to give the sensor cleaning tip a try the next time this occurs. As sure as the sun rises, it will happen again.

Other than this ABS issue, I have had no problems at all with either car. Unless Toyota steps up and corrects the issue, I will not be a returning customer.

DuckHunt
2007 Yaris Sedan (US)
2008 Yaris Sedan (US)

[devinlamothe]

Has anyone tried contacting Toyota Canada/US regarding this issue?

[Tamara]

OK! We need to be stirring the pot with this. I have been in contact with my steal-ership and theyre now offering up 300bucks towards the fix, and Toyota Canada is willing to chip in a bit too...HOWEVER, since I will be bringing my car to my local mechanic, as he was willing to attempt the cleaning fixes that are recommanded throughout this site (which WORKED for my left rear sensor, but my right rear sensor is still f'd), Toyota is not willing to chip in towards the parts or service as its not being performed by their overpriced inexperienced mechanics. So, we need to push Toyota Canada to do a campaign to have all Yaris's brought in and either have the connectors on the ABS harness cleaned/replaced, and/or have the company engineers design a better cover to protect these VERY sensitive circuits from our harsh Canadian climates to prevent them from corroiding.

Come on Toyota....fix this problem before we make it become a safety recall. You admit it yourselves on your website that ABS is better...and we did pay extra for it.

[devinlamothe]

I have sent a complaint to Transport Canada as well as Toyota Canada but received no response from either.

My local dealer also told me I would have to pay full price to get this fixed, eff that.

[mijemc]

Hej Onizuka
In Denmark Toyota calls the cars in to fix the gaspedals problems OK
How much does it kost for repair the gaspedals 1/2 our ?
How much does it kost for repair the ABS and VSC, 1/2 our, I dont think so, its kost a lot more.
Anyhow I have fix my ABS,VSC problem I have sold my Yaris, I look for another car to replace it, a Hyundai Getz 1,5 diesel. Hmm it is a ok car feels a littel old style, but it NOT a Yaris.
Anyway I ended up to bye a Toyota Yaris D4D from 2007 (26.000 km) in dark blue metalic color. It runs and feels like a new car.
I am a fool, I know, but I like to drive that car.

Michael Jensen from DK

[shohei]

Glad i found this forum!

We have 2007 5 door hatch bought in Feb. 2008 and a few days ago my wife called to say she started the car and the ABS light stayed on. I said to just take it easy (have had some warmer weather so the roads have been clear) and we could just slip it off to our local mech (Since owning the car my wife has had 2 major ...um screw overs at the dealer) and he could identify which sensor was shot. Well yesterday she popped back into the house to say the emergency brake indicator was on too the (!). I said probably a side effect of driving with out ABS repaired for X amount of Kms.

Any who... I had Decided to see if there was something i could do about it on my own. Voila - I joined the masses here.

Im going to try the cleaning bit and see it that will help before shelling out any $$. Not that im cheap but i can handle most repairs..just do not have a garage at my disposal so sitting in the slop in the driveway is never appealing -but compared to the $$$ ive read about so far...its worth it.

Im going to add to the government complaint form as well.

[mijemc]

2007 Toyota Yaris D4D 1,4 diesel
Do anyone have the batterilamps(charge) and fuelfilterlamps on, in kold or vet condition.
My old Yaris from 2006 had this problem. Maybe my new Yaris from 2007 have the same problems.

Michael Jensen from DK

[Jake]

well, my brother in law was nice enough to do it.
He's a mechanic. He used a compressor and blew out the dirt and lubricated the sensor on both the left and right side.

Lights are off, then on, then off, like a christmas tree.
Each day is different.

He inspected my brakes as well and said they are good.

Just letting you know the fix doesn't always work.

thanks,
JB