Motor Oil and filters

[TheSilkySmooth]

Our Camry engine is dead now from dealer using the 5W-20 ONCE on a tsb. My Spouse did not "hear" the engine disintegrating and I didin't find out until I went for a trip to her friends house. I said to her, " ... your engine has spun a rod beaing - get it to the dealer right away!", But Now she is 4000 miles OVER the warranty and we are S>O>L and money and good car.

So all you 20-weight proponents can stick it in your ear. This engine ran good on the 5W30 oil I was putting in. Dealer wrecked it. I will Trade for Nissan Rogue or sinilar, and Silver"worm"glow can buy my spouses destroyed trade-in because the oil is perfect. Moronic Nonsense!

Papa

[nsmitchell]

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Our Camry engine is dead now from dealer using the 5W-20 ONCE on a tsb. My Spouse did not "hear" the engine disintegrating and I didin't find out until I went for a trip to her friends house. I said to her, " ... your engine has spun a rod beaing - get it to the dealer right away!", But Now she is 4000 miles OVER the warranty and we are S>O>L and money and good car.

So all you 20-weight proponents can stick it in your ear. This engine ran good on the 5W30 oil I was putting in. Dealer wrecked it. I will Trade for Nissan Rogue or sinilar, and Silver"worm"glow can buy my spouses destroyed trade-in because the oil is perfect. Moronic Nonsense!

Papa

If the TSB was followed, I would contact Toyota for a new engine, covered under "Special Warranty". If you can prove the 5W-20 "caused" the damage, you will get your new engine.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by nsmitchell

If the TSB was followed, I would contact Toyota for a new engine, covered under "Special Warranty". If you can prove the 5W-20 "caused" the damage, you will get your new engine.

most dealers pump oil out of a common 500 gallon tank.. they use recycled oil, whatever the local petroleum supply sells..

it's crap oil..

but seriously, a 30 to 20 weight change on the high end of viscosity is NOT GOING TO SPIN A BEARING. there has to be another factor that caused the damage.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by Tamago

most dealers pump oil out of a common 500 gallon tank.. they use recycled oil, whatever the local petroleum supply sells..

it's crap oil..

but seriously, a 30 to 20 weight change on the high end of viscosity is NOT GOING TO SPIN A BEARING. there has to be another factor that caused the damage.

Why not? This is operating end of spec, And the viscosity is much less. SAE 30 is ~ 65% more viscous than SAE 20. 5.6 vs 9.3 cSt MIN. That bearing wont run out of hydrodynamic range too long before it gets hammerd egg shape at the top center of the top bearing shell, rod big end. Then you have Clack clack clack. Easily predictable failure - ignoramus EPA pushing AUtomakers to show higher CAFE numbers, Stupid managers making stupid decisions. Lucky toyota with the 60K engine warranty. I'll trade car at dealer that ruined it. I'll run 60W race oil to get it there.

- bro

[SilverGlow]

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Our Camry engine is dead now from dealer using the 5W-20 ONCE on a tsb. My Spouse did not "hear" the engine disintegrating and I didin't find out until I went for a trip to her friends house. I said to her, " ... your engine has spun a rod beaing - get it to the dealer right away!", But Now she is 4000 miles OVER the warranty and we are S>O>L and money and good car.

So all you 20-weight proponents can stick it in your ear. This engine ran good on the 5W30 oil I was putting in. Dealer wrecked it. I will Trade for Nissan Rogue or sinilar, and Silver"worm"glow can buy my spouses destroyed trade-in because the oil is perfect. Moronic Nonsense!

Papa

There are MILLIONS of Camry and other Toyota vehicles running 20 weight right now. MILLIONS. And those MILLIONS have no engine problems.

MMMMIIIIILLLLLLLLIIIIOOONNNSSSSS. All over the nation.

I would suggest an adult night school course in statistics for you. It seems you need to educate yourself.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

There are MILLIONS of Camry and other Toyota vehicles running 20 weight right now. MILLIONS. And those MILLIONS have no engine problems.

MMMMIIIIILLLLLLLLIIIIOOONNNSSSSS. All over the nation.

I would suggest an adult night school course in statistics for you. It seems you need to educate yourself.

Show me the engine failure rate statistics. You have NO information. This information doesn't
exist in the public domain. You are making up data (74% of alll statistice are made up on the spot). Plus it doesn't matter, Our engine failed. My neighbors Rav4 has a bad engine rap also. He put QS higher milage in it and it didn't quiet it.

BTW Silver, you have no credibility here amoungst educated adults.

VW/porsche/Audi I suppose are the only ones smart enough to spec the A3/B3.

signed: +/-3 sigma

[mikenacarato]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

There are MILLIONS of Camry and other Toyota vehicles running 20 weight right now. MILLIONS. And those MILLIONS have no engine problems.

MMMMIIIIILLLLLLLLIIIIOOONNNSSSSS. All over the nation.

I would suggest an adult night school course in statistics for you. It seems you need to educate yourself.

so..those are camrys....not yarii..and wheres your statistics degree?