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Old 12-18-2008, 03:07 PM   #1
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Perhaps your first set of tires were not steel belted? Many truck tires are not, or are not fully belted. The ones that came on my friend's 2004 Tacoma were not fully steel belted, nor were the ones that came on my coworker's 2008 Tacoma.

Additionally, I would be wary of trusting anything undocumented from a dealership, and only about half of what is actually documented. They are in the business of making money and will say anything to that end. They simply DO NOT want you to get any kind of longevity out of your tires, especially if they offer a tire service.
They were both the same brand of tires and both were steel belted. The rims and tires were an upgrad offered that they get from an independent dist. So the information was not coming from the dealership, it was coming from GST. Im assuming your friend and co-worker's Tacos didnt have 20's did they? No, they probably had 16's or 17's. Got any more excuses?
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Old 12-20-2008, 12:48 PM   #2
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Perhaps your first set of tires were not steel belted? Many truck tires are not, or are not fully belted. The ones that came on my friend's 2004 Tacoma were not fully steel belted, nor were the ones that came on my coworker's 2008 Tacoma.

Additionally, I would be wary of trusting anything undocumented from a dealership, and only about half of what is actually documented. They are in the business of making money and will say anything to that end. They simply DO NOT want you to get any kind of longevity out of your tires, especially if they offer a tire service.
60 psi ...cool, bet your contact footprint for your tires are about 1/4" x 5"

Yeah, I'd feel reeeeeeeeeal safe with that much of nothing making contact with the road.

On a side note...most tire machines say not to seat the bead of any tire at a pressure exceeding 40 psi...but had an extra 20 psi and get out on the freeway...
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:43 PM   #3
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The one that runs at higher pressure, every single time. This has held true over millions of road miles of testing, in every kind of environment and on every type of vehicle it has been tried on. You certainly have the freedom to believe regurgitated rhetoric but for my money I go where the actual testing has been done.
Who paid for this testing? Most tire test done are usually paid for by a certain tire company therefore their results they get might not be as accurate as they really are. Money rules all. Also while we are on this note, you have to be careful what you see and here on TV, the net or magazines. For example, I saw some ad on TV last night that said "Men are 4 times more likely to be struck by lightning than women." I bet there are a lot of people that saw that and said "Damn I'm glad I'm a women," or "Damn being a guy is hard." BUT you have to look more into the situation and understand why that is untrue. It should have said "Men get struck by lightning on average 4 times more than women."
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:27 PM   #4
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i had a set of Bridgestone Winterforce tires put on the Yaris for the winter. I checked the pressure and it's at about 35 psi. The max on the sidewall of the tire said 44 psi. I called the Bridgestone/Firestone tire dealer that installed the tires and asked them why so underinflated. They told me that the best thing to do woudl be to stay within what the car is rated for (whatever it says on the door label)

I think it's a load of crap, cuz I'm losing about 100 kms per tank ever since. Can I inflate to 44psi?
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:37 PM   #5
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i had a set of Bridgestone Winterforce tires put on the Yaris for the winter. I checked the pressure and it's at about 35 psi. The max on the sidewall of the tire said 44 psi. I called the Bridgestone/Firestone tire dealer that installed the tires and asked them why so underinflated. They told me that the best thing to do woudl be to stay within what the car is rated for (whatever it says on the door label)

I think it's a load of crap, cuz I'm losing about 100 kms per tank ever since. Can I inflate to 44psi?
You dont think that maybe your mpg went down its WINTER??
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:31 PM   #6
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Old 12-18-2008, 03:19 PM   #7
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I am not sure where all your venom comes from b_hickman11, but it is uncalled for. Your experience, if truthful and accurate, is unique in all that I and thousands of others have learned and experienced at higher pressures.
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Old 12-18-2008, 03:22 PM   #8
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So its a fluke? Right.....
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:18 PM   #9
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Yes, I believe it is either a fluke or a misrepresentation by those that told you it was the fault of the higher pressure in order to escape their own culpability for a substandard product.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:33 PM   #10
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I think it's a load of crap, cuz I'm losing about 100 kms per tank ever since.
Maybe thats why i noticed a difference in mpg when i switched tires? I inflated to the what the car says on door label?
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:00 PM   #11
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Listen center tread wear can easily be tested the same way I use to test my tires for roll on turns. On a dry day take a piece of sidewalk chalk and just make 4 or 5 1inch-2inchthick lines from the sidewall and across the tread. Drive your car for just a mile or less and check to see where the chalk has been worn off. I bet that at 60 PSI you will see substantial center tread wear and at 32 if you have taken a hard turn will find that some chalk has been worn off of the sidewall!!! Easy test that I owe Loren for helping me find to use on autocross
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:52 PM   #12
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well i put 100 psi into my 205/40/17's... it hasn't popped yet...(just so you know this was a joke)
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:22 PM   #13
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When the salesman delivered my Yaris to my home he showed me these Green Tire "Caps"(where you put air in the tire ) He said the tires had nitrogen in them! That they would hold the pressure better than air? So far, So good! And I think someone special ordered this car and then rejected it...Thank goodness for unanswered prayers.

I had ordered a "sport" 3 door liftback from a salesman in New Orleans! I waited three months for my Sport Yaris to come in. THEN I LEARNED....Japan does not ship the Sport to America (they could now? but not then-three months ago).

I then ordered my Yaris from Slidell LA and told he salesman to find me the closest car to the Sport; to which he did.
It came with all the airbags/cd player/mp3 ready/Automatic/tinted windows/15" wheels and sporty rims.
I added the GPS/Backup Camera/Viper Alarm/Scan Guage/ lots of trim and if I could find out how to make the GARAGE I once had no this site I would take pictures...I love the color..Meteorite Matellic..I sold my new Lexus to buy this darling car...and the only thing I miss is the cornering lights my Lexus had...Nothing else....

If you know how I can make my Yaris Garage again I sure would appeciate your telling me..
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:57 PM   #14
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generally i run 5-10 psi under max depending on the tire...keep in mind, the more the pressure the less the contact patch of the tire. while that smaller contact patch means less resistance and therefore better milage, it also hurts your traction if you inflate too far...and thats not so good.

just watch your shift points and keep your foot out of it, these cars can get 40+ mpg in stock form with ease if you take it easy.
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Old 12-20-2008, 12:29 PM   #15
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BILL , you can't win . I've tried and it gets us and others more rild up . We too keep tires at 34 p.s.i. ( <or> lb. ) and get an overall average of 38 m.p.g.. If they want to speed up earlier wear on their suspensions and put themselves / others at risk that's their decision . Yeh can lead a horse to water , but yeh can't make 'em drink . NEYYYYY .
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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE -- RIGHT ANSWER! YOU MUST ALL FIGHT TO YOUR DEATHS!

Seriously though, why does everyone need to be so right on this? The OP just wanted to know what pressures you run your tires at, not your life story.

Me, I keep 'em at 37psi. Maybe will go up to 40 in the future.
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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE -- RIGHT ANSWER! YOU MUST ALL FIGHT TO YOUR DEATHS!

Seriously though, why does everyone need to be so right on this? The OP just wanted to know what pressures you run your tires at, not your life story.

Me, I keep 'em at 37psi. Maybe will go up to 40 in the future.

I'll try to be right on everything: Toyota says 32psi, I'll put 32psi in the tires.

They also say 5w-30, so I use 5w-30, etc...

I might start thinking like a rebel next year and switch to 20w-50 (7qts), going down to 11psi, using green coolant, R-12 freon, bias ply tires, ATF in my 5-speed, torque my lugnuts to 200 ft/lbs, do OCI every 20k miles...or not...Toyota was right on all the other specs, don't know why they'd put a tire information label on the car that had inaccurate info on it; they didn't. OP, Toyota says 32psi...believe Toyota, or believe people that decide to nearly double that number
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:43 PM   #18
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Had them at 45 psi for about 6 months, and have now had them at 50psi for the last 4 months. No problems to report, and while I haven't noticed a significant increase in fuel efficiency, my rolling distances have increased when not using gas.

I have actually hit a few curbs and ruts that blew out a set of tires I had before at 32psi, and they didn't show any damage when I hit the same curbs with my current 50psi tires.
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