Mobil-1 5W-30 does not meet SM/SL standards?

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Run it, have engine failure, Warranty wont cover due to oil not meeting manufacturer\'s spec, Now you have to prove to E.O.M. that their oil is bad(ha!) and caused failure, wait 3 years maybe get some money if you are lucky. In the meantime you pay $4500. for engine repair. Sure I want to use that stuff!

Bullshit. When I went to Toyota....they have a whole entire shelf full of Mobil 1 5-30 and that is what they use when a customer requires synthetic oil. There is no way that if there were an engine failure, they would not honor the warranty due to the use of Mobil 1. They can only check to see the viscosity is correct and the level is correct.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

Bullshit. When I went to Toyota....they have a whole entire shelf full of Mobil 1 5-30 and that is what they use when a customer requires synthetic oil. There is no way that if there were an engine failure, they would not honor the warranty due to the use of Mobil 1. They can only check to see the viscosity is correct and the level is correct.

The Center Having and selling M1 is irrelevant to this argument, the centere is UNAWARE of the oil being out of specification as are 99.999% of drivers and 90% service managers. If the oil is at fault, the Oil MFG will have to pay and there may be BIG delays in recuping uyour losses. Naturally, Toyota WOULD have to prove that the oil was out of spec and not you, but if they are ShArKs they may give you the ould "run around" if you are ill informed and dont have a lawyer standing next to you. Now, typ they would only perform a viscosity at temp and TBN to certify the oil as OK. But if there is "proof" out there that M1 does not meet sl/sm then Toyota has the upper hand and they can deny warranty claim - IF it is proven a given MFG run of that the oil is NFG. In our world, I would hope MY toyota service centre would just fix the motor if the oil level is good and I have proof of last OC.
ps: I would also not expect to see any failures with this sequence iva test being not met. You may just see some higher wear numbers thru the OCI, if any.

-Papa